Can I Remove the Widow’s Peak that Formed After My Hairline Matured? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I am a 29 yrs old asian male. I had narrow forehead with a widows peak as a child. About 5 yrs ago, i started to notice receding hairline just on the temple. My hair line became more M shaped and now some of the frontal hair is thinning. However, the hairs on my widows peak are still thick. Is there anyway I can remove the widows peak and little bit of my frontal hair to make my hairline more natural? I know that will recede my hair line more than now but its okay since I have a narrow forehead. Thank you

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Without seeing you, I can not determine if your requests are reasonable. If you lost frontal hair, a hair transplant may bring you back towards your original look. Removing a widow’s peak is possible, but that may not be what you really need.

Hair Loss InformationDoctor Calls Miniaturization Studies Unnecessary – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dr. Rassman,

I read your blog daily and really enjoyed the educational pieces about miniaturization that you recently posted. You made a comment that you have never understood why your colleagues don’t accept the approach you recommend for doing miniaturization studies.

I will probably be looking at getting a hair- transplant within the next 24 months. Because I work 7 days a week due to being self-employed, I cannot afford to miss work and come to see you. Fortunately, I have a very good surgeon about 45 minutes away. When I called his office though to inquire about miniaturization studies, his staff had no idea what I was asking about. I recently e-mailed the doctor to ask him about it. Below is my e-mail and his response to it. Perhaps his response will help to inform you of why some of your fellow surgeons do not embrace the concept. After reading, please tell me what you think in regards to his comments. Hopefully, maybe, everyone can eventually come to an agreement.

This is my e-mail to the doctor in question:

Dear Dr. (name withheld)

I will be looking into getting a possible hair- transplant within the next 24 months. I have been educating myself fiercely. I have become almost addicted to learning about hairloss. I have been listening to Spencer Kobren for the last year and have spent literally hundreds of hours on various hairloss forums. I am also a daily reader of Dr. Rassman’s Balding Blog.

One thing that Dr. Rassman constantly stresses is the importance of getting miniaturization studies done. The miniaturization study serves two important benefits. It predicts your eventual hairloss pattern and gives a baseline to show if, and how, other modalities such as Propecia and Rogaine are working.

I was very concerned when I called your office about 4 months ago to inquire about getting one prior to a transplant to “assess my damage” and to get a baseline, because I want to first try Rogaine and Propecia prior to a future transplant. I was very alarmed when your staff had no idea what I was even asking about. When I pushed the issue with the girl who took my call (she said she’s never heard of such a thing) she said she would check with someone else. She came back on the phone a few minutes later and said she spoke with you and claimed you said miniaturization studies aren’t done or needed because if you are already losing your hair, you don’t need a study to tell you so! This is false and there are several very valid reasons for getting them done.

Is this true that you don’t do them or recommend them?

Please advise.

This is the doctor’s response:

Bill Rassman is a good friend of mine and a top tier surgeon, and we generally agree on almost everything. On the matter of miniaturization studies though, we apparently disagree.

You made the following statement: It predicts your eventual hair loss pattern and gives a baseline to show if, and how, other modalities such as Propecia and Rogaine are working.

I am not aware of any technique that has been shown to reliably predict the eventual hair loss pattern. That would require many years of followup to determine accuracy, and that has simply not been done. Furthermore, there is no evidence that a magnified assessment is superior to a “naked eye” assessment.

While its true that magnified images can be dramatic, and can be helpful to show a patient his or her status, no experienced surgeon needs it to determine who is a good candidate for surgery and who should be rejected, nor to determine where to place the transplanted hairs. If a miniaturization study predicted only a Norwood III pattern, would it be safe to transplant a very low hairline? I would say no.

I was taught early in my medical career to perform a test or study only if the results would change the outcome, and in my opinion a miniaturization study would not give me any information I would not already have. I have no problem with the use of these studies, but they are not part of the “standard of care.” I do perform a magnified view of the donor area with a handheld device to determine density, and to determine how long and wide the strip should be, and obtain high magnification digital photography if a density study is to be performed.

As far as using Propecia and or Rogaine prior to a transplant, I think that’s a great idea, but you will not need the miniaturization study to know if those products are working. Standard photography and self assessments will do that quite well. {END}

I have removed all references to the doctor’s identity, but I can e-mail his name privately if you would like to know. I am very curious as to what you think of his response to the miniaturization studies you advocate.

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Dr RassmanBest if I give you an example of a patient I saw yesterday. He was 39 years old and lost 1/2 inch of frontal hairline above where his mature hairline would be. He wanted it back.

He had no balding to the naked eye and when I mapped out his head for miniaturization, there was absolutely none present anywhere else on the scalp. He was started on Propecia and we arranged for a hair transplant. He asked what his future might look like and I said that based upon no miniaturization on his scalp (even on the leading bald edge where he missing hair was), the use of Propecia and his age, it would be unlikely that he will bald further.

Earlier in the week I saw another patient with a similar presentation. He was 34 years old with no evident balding in the top or back of his head, but when I mapped out the scalp, he had significant miniaturization in its early state impacting 80% of the hair in the front and top and 30% of the hair in the upper crown area. I told him that his future may not be bright and that his balding could progress further back. Only the Propecia will possibly thwart the process. I also told him that in a year we can remeasure his miniaturization and if the drug reversed it, it would be likely that he could control it, but if the drug did not and the process advanced, then he might be into more transplants down the road.

I clearly could not give either patient an absolute guarantee on what might happen to him, but using a metric and a little bit of science, both patients felt that they received value from my opinion and measurements.

Are Aderans Clinical Studies Run Through the FDA? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I noticed that Aderans has started their phase 2 studies: AderansResearch.com. However, I can’t seem to find anything from the FDA clinical site regarding their study. I tried e-mailing Aderans and got no response, so I was hoping somone with more clout might be able to help. Do you know anything about this? Are they going to go through FDA procedures and oversite?

Also, I thought that Ken Washenik was legit (he’s even presenting at the AAD conference this year). But he’s associated with this project and Bosley. Any insight into this? Is this going to be something we should consider if the technology does come out?

Finally, given the new information from Histogen, I have done some research and found that there’s a concern that some people may develp tumors from stem cell therapy. Is this something we should be worried about with this new technique presented by Histogen?

Thanks for all your help!

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All of your questions and insights are significant and right on. We can not force Aderans to reveal what it is doing. FDA studies in this phase are kept confidential until results are formally released.

Yes, Dr. Washenik is the medical director at Bosley, which is one of the many companies Aderans owns. Also in their portfolio of companies is Aderans Co. Ltd (wig maker), Medical Hair Restoration (another large hair clinic chain), and a variety of others across the globe (see Aderans Group).

The concept of tumors produced by stem cells has been published in many articles over the years and you can research this on Google.

The Propecia Timeline – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I understand that you’ve answered questions similar to this multiple times, however I’m still having a hard time putting the overall logic of this drug together…

First of all, here is my situation. I am 25 years old. I began experiencing light thinning around the crown and in the mid-anterior area about 6 months ago. It seemed to progress very slowly, but 3 months ago I decided to begin propecia 1mg daily. I experienced one or two days of VERY noticeably shedding about a month after starting the drug (I brushed my hand lightly over the top of my head once and saw dozens of hairs fall into the sink one time). I don’t know if this was caused by the drug. I have now been on the drug for 3 and 1/2 months. I now have noticeably more hair loss than I did at the beginning, when I comb my hair I see 10-20 hairs fall out. Am I too optimistic in believing that I should experience good results because of my age and that I began the drug within a few months of my hair starting to thin? Is how quickly you get results an indicator of how good those results will be?

You indicated in response to another reader “When Propecia works, it works very fast. You may not see the full impact for 8 or so months, but you do not have to wait to get the benefits”(March 21 2007). What is the difference between “impact” and “benefits”? One occurs very fast, the other takes 8 or so months? I’m confused… And I’m not necessarily asking you to make a premature prediction about MY results (although if you you felt like it I would be interested), I’m moreso just trying to understand the logic of how I should evaluate my response to the drug over time, so that i can make a more educated decision about whether to continue putting a foreign substance into myself for cosmetic reasons.

Thanks for your time.

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The biochemical connection at blocking the DHT occurs in days or weeks after starting the drug, but as hair grows at 1/2 inch per month, it takes time for you to see the results. In addition to this, the impact on each hair may be different depending upon the degree of miniaturization and I believe that this is real, but there are no studies on this that show any science behind this statement. What we do know is that the benefits of Propecia seem to increase over time (up to two years) so my last statement may be the mechanism behind the incremental benefit that is seen. The decision to take Propecia is a personal decision for each man who is balding and all we can do as doctors is advise our patients on what we know.

Finasteride and Gynecomastia – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I plan to take Proscar (split into 4/1.25mg each) but my biggest concern is breast enlargement. What would be the best way to determine I was experiencing the side effect? I am very slim with zero fat (like a 33″ chest) and chest is pretty flat. I’m wary that it can be harder for one to notice a gradual change so would taking photos from the side and comparing every week be an idea?

How likely would any change in feeling (tenderness, pain etc) be an indicator of gyno starting to occur? If I noticed a slight increase in breasts and stopped Proscar immediately would the size return to normal – and how long may it take? And at what point does it no longer become reversible? Thanks.

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Breast tenderness and breast enlargement are different — one may not be indicative of the other. Each person is different, and as that particular side effect is extremely rare, I can’t say for sure where the “point of no return” is. It varies from person to person. Just try not to get too obsessive about it, but if you do begin to notice anything strange, then discuss it with your prescribing doctor. You won’t just wake up with man-boobs overnight and certainly, the side effect is so rare that it shouldn’t be cause for worry.

Can I Apply Rogaine to the Vellus Hairs at My Hairline’s Corners? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dear doctors at Balding Blog,
once again, I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for your great work. It is really really much appreciated from everyone out here. I have a question which I have not seen answered, so I hope you can help me out.

  1. I believe I am a guy with naturally high Testosterone levels. I have a very high sex drive, and I believe this is causing my excessive testosterone to be converted into DHT. Do you think that is logical? How do I reduce my sex drive?
  2. I have been on Propecia for 10 months. How long do you think I should wait to see results? My hair has been slowly thinning, and now I can’t even comb it properly.
  3. I have a receeding hairline, especially at the corners. However I can see tiny vellus hairs at the corners. Should I start applying Rogaine in that particular area?

Thank you very much for your time. I wish you and your team all the best always

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  1. I do not suggest that you try to reduce your sex drive, but if you think that your testosterone level is too high, get it tested.
  2. The results of Propecia take at least 8-12 months to see benefits, but that benefit may just be reduced hair loss, not hair growth.
  3. You can apply Rogaine to the corners, but you will have to wait at least 8 months to determine if it works.

Thank you for your well wishing. I hope I helped.

Asymmetrical Hairline Maturing – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

hi dr,
i have a question about hair lines. if you were born with an asymmetrical hairline (one side of your hairline is higher then the other) and in the future your hairline matures, could this be misdiagnosed as androgenetic alopecia due to the unsymmetrical balding? also i have a cowlick in the front of my hair line off center. i was wondering can you place grafts into the cowlick to restore or lower a hairline

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If you were born with an asymmetrical hairline and you did not tell your doctor when he/she was examining your hair loss, then this can lead to misdiagnosis. Cowlicks in the frontal hairline can be transplanted, but they are tricky and require a surgeon with great skills.

Topical Zinc Can Block Minoxidil – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dear Doctor,

regarding the use of zinc together with minoxidil. Please note at the end of this page (HairLossFight.com):

There are studies in regards to the use of topical zinc. However, zinc will form insoluble salts when it reacts with minoxidil/azelaic acid, rendering all of the ingredients ineffective.

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The above email was received in response to Can Zinc Block Minoxidil?. Thanks for sending this in.

Doctors That Are “Consultants” with Drug Companies – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

What is your opinion of hair restoration doctors who sell supplies in their office? And are listed as consultants with various drug companies? And what does “consultant” mean? Basically a salesperson?

Are these doctors someone to avoid?

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DoctorA consultant could be a variety of things to a pharmaceutical company. Off the top of my head, it could be a label used to give some credence to the product by having an M.D. associated with it. It could be a go-to person for data. Could be that the drug company gives that doctor early access to treatment information. I don’t know for sure, as I’m not a consultant (and it could vary from company to company). I have seen some doctors listed as advisors to various crap hair treatments, and without getting into specifics, I’m sure the doctor would have to be paid well to attach his name and reputation to such a product. I wouldn’t say you should automatically rule out any doctor that consults or advises or whatever word you’d want to use to describe it.

In my office, I don’t sell products or medications that are marked up in price (in other words, I sell Propecia at cost), so you will know that I have no conflict of interest. I can’t speak for the others you are reflecting upon.

Hair Loss InformationThe Good and Bad of Miniaturization Mapping – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Doctor

Miniaturization seems to be a bad news good news scenario. The bad news obviously is you’re thinning or balding. The good news, if there is miniaturized hairs, there’s a good possibility they can be reversed with medication. Would that be a correct assessment?

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Yes, that is the case. I can tell you a short story about heart disease, which I think is a good metaphor for your question.

There is a test that can plot out the aging of your heart and the degree of heart disease that you might have. This test (a CAT scan of the heart for coronary calcification) can actually predict the probability of a heart attack within 2 years. Many people find out about this test and really don’t want to know. I tell them that in 70% of people, the first sign of heart disease is death and some people still don’t want to know. I tell everyone that there is no bad news. Either your heart is good or you have heart disease with some risk of dying — your choice to know. Is it not better to know and do something to prevent your death than to refuse to take the test?

Predicting outcome is similar with miniaturization mapping, but hair loss progress does not kill you. Do you get the metaphor?