Are There Downsides to Starting Propecia Early? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Here in England a nationwide pharmacy is running a “hair retention scheme” which basically seems to be a way to prescribe propecia. I went along for an appointment but was told that I was a Norwood II and I’d have to wait until I was a Norwood III before they would prescribe the drug.

Reading previous answers I assume this is because propecia does not seem to effectively regrow hair at the temples and because of issues around mature hairlines vs balding. I am a 20 year old male who has noticed a big change in my hairline over the last 18 months, including large amounts of hair shedding. Furthermore my father, who was very bald by 24 or 25, first noticed he was going bald when he was 20.

Would propecia be beneficial for a person in my situation? What are the potential downsides of starting it now? I have read a lot that as soon as you notice hair loss you should try and do something about it but my experience so far doesn’t seem to chime with that.

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PropeciaI looked up the hair retention program you mentioned, and it sound like it is just Boots pharmacy’s way of marketing hair loss products.

Propecia is a medication that needs to be prescribed by a physician and it is for the treatment of male pattern hair loss. It works mostly on the crown area (rarely in the front corner areas for men with Norwood Class II or III) and it likely will not reverse the maturing hairline that we see in young men between 18-30 years old. That being said, many doctors prescribe it for this early frontal hair loss or maturing hairlines because they do not look for miniaturization, the cardinal sign of genetic hair loss and balding. Many men take it out of fear of losing their hair or on the recommendation of doctors who do not know much about the diagnosis of genetic balding. It does not work for frontal hair loss in most instances other than possibly slowing the process down, but is it the only real medication to address what you are going through.

There really is no downside to taking Propecia early on in the hair loss process, but if you are not balding why take a medication you don’t need? In the end, these choices are something you and your doctor need to discuss and come to an agreement. It sounds like there is some disagreement between you and your doctor.

Could Minoxidil and Finasteride Benefit the Same Follicles? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dr Rassman,

My question is: does finasteride play any role in maintaining minoxidil dose-dependent hair?

I got started on 5% minoxidil topical in early Feb, 2009. My derm prescribed Finasteride oral 1mg/day too, but I did not pursue that medication due to the usual side-effects related concerns. There was an initial minox-induced shed: not a massive one, but scalp showed. Things started looking up 4 months later but then again in July/August a bout of minor shedding ensued. Survived that too. In November yet another shed started and this one was bad; short fine hairs all over the pillow in the morning. Scalp showed yet again, as bad as after the first shed in March. In December, I panicked, decided that Minox wasn’t working for me, and got started on Finstaride 1mg.

By mid-Feb this year, there was a sort of minor miracle on the top of my head. My hair is looking its best in maybe two years. I hope you agree with me that it’s unlikely that Finasteride started growing hair within 10 weeks of beginning its use. My (semi-literate) guess is that Minox first grew “peach fuzz”, which gave way to intermediate hair, which then was replaced by terminal hair. I suffered synchronized sheds, the last one being the shedding of intermediate hair. Maybe more sheddings are in store for me, maybe not.

To get to the point, I am so pleased with the result that I’ve gotten greedy: I want Finasteride growth too. No sexual side-effects so far. I’d like to press on with Fin, and reserve the option of discontinuing it in future if side-effects show up. I understand that that would result in catch-up loss, but then probably I’d be content with the hair that Minox grew for me.

Hence the question: do minox and Fin have a cumulative beneficial effect on the same hair follicle? Will minox-dependent hair too be lost in catch-up loss if Fin is stopped? If the answer is in the affirmative, I’d probably be better off stopping Fin right away, since I’ve been using it only for 3 months.

Thank you for a patient reading, and thank you for your time.

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You would have to poll each hair follicle and ask them what they liked better. If you can not communicate with them, then you are like me who frankly does not know the answer to your question. My best guess though (keep in mind I could be mistaken) is that because the medications work in different ways and finasteride will not keep hair grown from minoxidil and vice versa, that the benefits are independent of each other. Many men do use both medications concurrently, and as long as you can afford both (and maintain the regimen) I say go for it! It’s ok to be greedy and want your hair to look as great as possible. If the meds work well for you, that’s great news!

While it is unlikely that any major hair growth you’ve seen in just 10 weeks occurred from finasteride, you could’ve seen benefits from the medication that have helped your hair look better overall.

Hair Loss InformationYears Later, Is Hair Cloning Any Closer? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dear Dr,

I remember first coming to your site back in 2006 when I first started noticing that I was thinning. I was obviously upset by this, but was excited about the possibility of hair cloning being 5-10 years away. The idea that you could get all your hair back was very appealing. Now 4 years have passed and I feel frustrated that very little has advanced in this field. I have seen the likes of Aderans, Intercytex, Histogen and Follica all make statements that they are on track to solve the problem, but no one seems any closer.

Do you think we are ever going to see this come to fruition or is it too difficult to crack? Also, what other potential ‘cures’ are being developed? Surely if someone achieves this they will become a billionaire. There is obviously lots of incentive. If you believe we see a ‘cure’ when do you think this will be. By cure I mean someone with extensive baldness being able to get all their hair back.

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As I’ve said many times before (which is usually met with much criticism by some readers that think they know better), I wouldn’t hold my breath. We all want to wait for the next breakthrough, the next best thing, the next version, etc.

The idea of being able to clone hair for infinite supply is tantalizing, but I have not seen anything remotely close on the horizon. Based on press releases, some of these companies seem to be making small steps here and there, but we’re a long way off before seeing successful hair cloning available to the public. I do hope it would be in my lifetime, because my business will sky rocket! I mean, who better to do these cloning procedures than experienced hair physicians?

Hair Loss InformationNew Results from Histogen Announced – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dr. Rassman

I´ve found this new updates from Histogen(with pictures) and all this sounds very promising from my point of view. What is your opinion on this? Thank you for your time.

Histogen.com

An interview with dr. Gail Naughton: here

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The new Histogen Hair Stimulating Complex (HSC) results come from a pilot study of 24 people, but I have no idea how many of those were treated with a placebo, how many actually saw results, if the results were sustained over time, if there were adverse reactions, etc, etc. Their site says Histogen will present the study at a conference in May, so I guess these questions won’t have an answer until at least then.

Can Propecia Keep Frontal Hair? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hello Doctor.

I’m 18 and my hairline, while naturally high, has been receding, especially at the temples. It is thankfully not noticeable at the crown yet. I’m in my school show and am forced to have a combover which is slightly embarrassing because it clearly displays my receding temples (although they have always been high) plus my hair is wavy/curly, so that just makes it look worse. Fortunately i don’t normally do a combover and just have it all combed towards the front… but anyway, im seeing a dermatologist on Tuesday. I’ve read that if caught early enough MPB can be slowed or and even halted when DHT is blocked, and that Propecia can do this. I just had a question about it.

I know its not proven to regrow frontal hair, however can it help KEEP the hair that is still currently there? And perhaps thicken the amount still left so it looks healthier? Also, what should i be sure to discuss with the dermatologist on Tuesday? To make sure i receive the best benefit as possible (no surgery please!) Thank you for your time!

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Propecia does not usually regrow frontal hair, as you know. It may slow the recession a bit, but in general Propecia is not known to work well in the front (especially the corners). That being said, if you have genetic balding (your dermatologist can determine whether it’s MPB or a maturing hairline), I’d still get a prescription for Propecia since it may help slow your balding process down.

Scalp Tattooing that Looks Like Hair? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi Dr Rassman,
Since I like the close cropped look and I am probably a Norwood 4 leaning towards 5, I am considering getting cosmetic hair tattoos to the scalp. What do you think about this place? The results look great in the photos, but I’ll ask to see some patients in person of course (thanks for putting that in my head!). Here’s the place. They are in the UK, but I’ve got family there and have been wanting to visit anyway.

HIS Hair Clinic

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TattooI would definitely want to see some real patients up close before deciding on tattoos like this. As I’ve written before, I have seen scalp tattoos that try to mimic hair, but what I’ve seen has been unimpressive and some even seem to have a greenish tint as well (maybe it is the ink or the artist — I have no idea, as I am not a tattoo expert). I understand tattoo technology has evolved, but drawing what looks like hair on the scalp can be tricky.

The photos presented by the clinic you linked to are quite nice, I will admit. I’m sure these results look fine from a distance, but I wonder if you’re sitting across from someone at dinner would it look like someone drew on their scalp with a pen? If the light hits your head wouldn’t it still shine like a bald head? Over time, tattoos with fine lines will blur… so how will that change on the scalp? I know there’s at least one scalp tattoo place that posts comments on this site from time to time, so perhaps they can post below to inform us about that.

I do recall one patient who did draw (non-permanent) individual hairs on his bald head to mimic a close shaved look, but it took many hours, special artistry, and skill. He eventually went on the have a hair transplant procedure.

Thickness of Hairs – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

First off i just want to congratulate you on your blog. You’re doing a splendid job. It helped me tons in these two years of my battle with MPB.

My question relates to thickness of the hairs. You had mentioned previously in several posts that the thickness of hairs is standard for each hair in the non balding areas (the horse shoe pattern hair remaining that will probably outlive us). However i did a test and plucked some of these hairs in this region and not all of them have the same thickness. I didn’t use a microscope or anything but it it is quite clear to the naked eye. I am also sure that i am not thinning in these areas because my MPB is very very early and just in the corners of the hairline and none of my family members went past NW 3-4.

So to sum it up is it possible that some hairs on the head might be thinner than others? Is this normal? thank you

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Yes, you are correct! Hair thickness varies all over the head as each hair is going through its cycle of growth/rest/fall (anagen/catagen/telogen). For non-balding men and women, you should have about 90% of hairs in a growth phase with relatively thicker hair and about 10% should be in a relatively thinner state. Then there are vellus hairs which are found in the follicular units. These vellus hairs are always thin and that is normal. So it is perfectly natural to have thinner hair in the back of the scalp (permanent, non-balding zone). If you are balding, this ratio will be dramatically different. Keep in mind this is a relative comparison with respect to your own hair at different areas of your scalp. This is in essence the miniaturization study that we have been advocating.

When technology catches up to us, we will have an instrument to accurately map all the hairs and its states on our scalp. As an aside, you should know that this horseshoe rim of hair is often impacted in women and in men who develop DUPA (diffuse unpatterned alopecia).

Does Propecia Work for the Vast Majority of Men Under 30? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dr. Rassman,

Do you agree with the following statement: At least 50 percent of men in their 20’s today who have little or no hair on their head should not be bald.

Propecia doesn’t last forever, some can’t afford it, others will choose not to take it, and it won’t work effectively on some group of men. But for the vast majority of men, it works and it seems like most men under 30 who are visibly bald missed the chance to buy themselves a few important years by not taking Propecia.

Agreed?

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The statistics indicate that men over 50 years old have a frequency of some degree of balding in half of the Caucasian male population. That does not mean than the same statistic will be found in men under 30, as some men start balding in ages beyond 30. The full value of Propecia for those that see benefits changes over time (opinion backed up by the Merck study). The choices are always yours.

The other side of the coin is that Propecia works best when hair loss is earlier. If you start hair loss at 22 years old, then you are a better candidate for value (slowing, stopping, or reversing hair loss) than if you were 32 and had hair loss for the preceding 10 years. Also, if you start balding at 35 and start taking Propecia at 36, you will have a better value in its use than if you were balding since you were 22 (14 years of balding) in that same situation.

Hair Loss InformationLooking at Family Hairlines to Determine MPB? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hello,

I have a question regarding hairlines. Does the similarity of hairlines bewteen family members serve as a tool in determing the possiblity of MPB? Or does hairline similarity have nothing to do with MPB? Thanks.

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Since the balding gene can come from either side of the family, you couldn’t make a determination about hair loss just by looking at hairlines. It’s not that simple, but if you have started to bald at 25 years old and someone in your family says, “Wow, your hair looks like mine at 25 years old!“, then it would be safe to assume that your pattern might follow his pattern both in scope and in timing. So, ask around and speak to the men in your family.

My Newly Transplanted Hairs are Falling Out! – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Three months ago I got a hair transplant and over that time the hairs that were put in fell out. Is this transplant going to fail?

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Normally the hairs that are transplanted do fall out in the first few months and then they get replaced by your body at about 3-5 months with new hair. If the transplant is a success, you should see 80-90% of the results in 8 months. Patience is your friend at this point!