Widow’s Peak and Hair Loss – Balding Blog

Hello doc, I’m a 24 year old white male.

I’ve read a lot of people refer to MPB as starting out with a “widow’s peak” but here’s a question for you sir: all of the females in my family have a natural widow’s peak shaped hairline, they aren’t flat but have that M shaped curve to them. The trait is dominant and I got one as a kid as well. I rarely see any older men out there that have low widow’s peak shaped hairlines, all of the men that have low hairlines as they age seem to have flat hairlines with just some hair loss at the temples.

My question is this: when a boy gets the widow’s peak hairline as opposed to flat, does that more commonly or always lead to a higher mature hairline as an adult? I am currently 24 and my hairline has some definate hair loss at the temples, but it still hasn’t gone back at all in the middle and very slightly on the sides. Does the fact that I have a widow’s peak shape mean I am destined for a high hairline on the front/sides?

David LettermanGood question. I believe that the frontal juvenile hairline has different genetics than the hair behind it (the mature hairline) and that includes the widow’s peak. I have seen men who maintained the juvenile hairline and lost all of the hair behind it (just 1/2 inch of hair present that is normal for that man). Also, the central forelock has a distinct genetic pattern in some family lines (that forelock will last into old age even if all of the hair around it is lost). Nighttime talk show host David Letterman has a persistent forelock which on close examination looks like a round patch of hair isolated from the hair on the sides and behind it. Sometimes the forelock is connected to a widow’s peak and sometimes it is connected to the surrounding hair.




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Mono and Female Hair Loss – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I am desperate for information. I have been to dermatologists and M.D.’s and am not sure what to believe any more. The dermatologist told me my hair loss was due to an autoimmune disease and gave me steroid shots in the head and did a biopsy and said the hair follicles where still alive. Went to M.D and had blood test told it was not audio immune. Been told many times it was thyroid then had blood test done and they came back fine. There is nobody else in family with this problem. Please help am desperate. Had mono 1 and a half years ago. Can this cause hair loss? what can I do? I am a female and this is very embarrassing.

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I can not be your doctor over the internet, but the questions you asked are ones that you need to know the answers to. You were told you have auto-immune disease, then had none. Then it was thyroid disease, then not. You need to get a full examination to find out the cause of your hair loss. Any illness (even mono) can trigger hair loss in those people who have the hair loss genetics (women included). Are you one of those women?

You need to bond with a good doctor. Like a good marriage, the partnership between patient and doctor is a partnership where the doctor works for the patient on the presented problem in the patient’s time frame. If you do not have the right partner (doctor), get rid of him/her and find one who respects you as an individual with needs and gives you the service you are paying for.

I Want to Be a Hair Transplant Surgeon – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I currently want to go to school to become a hair loss surgeon. Do you have any suggestions on what I should take up and what schools?

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  1. You need to be evaluated by a psychiatrist (kidding, kidding)
  2. Go to medical school
  3. Enroll in a residency program (preferably where you can learn surgical skills)
  4. Find a good hair restoration surgeon and set up a mentorship/ fellowship program with him/her

The entire process would probably cost you well over $250,000.

Hair Loss InformationIs My Alopecia Areata Getting Worse? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I first noticed the symptoms of alopecia areata at age 13. I’m 23 years old now. I briefly saw a dermatologist when I was 16 and received steroid injections for about a year. These proved ineffective. My hair regularly grows back, only to be followed by other areas falling out. At any one time I’d guess that about 40% of my head is covered in hair. I’ve learned to deal with the condition, but recently it seems that it’s migrated to my beard and as well I’m experiencing increased pitting in my fingernails, which hasn’t happened for about 8 years.

Is my condition significantly worsening? If so, what can I expect? Also, given it’s been 7 years since I’ve seen a professional about this, what sort of treatments might be effective in a case such as mine?

Thanks for your time

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You need to be managed by a doctor whose specialty and interests are focused on alopecia areata (usually this would be a dermatologist). The disease moves around and sounds like it is active in you. Biopsies of the active area at the border with the normal hair will show inflammatory cells suggestive of auto-immune disease. Look at the case I posted about the other day (Alopecia Areata in a Patient with a Miracle Cure). This type of expertise is what I would want if I had the problem. I am not an expert on alopecia areata, so I am unfortunately not the person to ask.

I Use Nourkin for Treating My Hair Loss – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

I read your comments regarding Nourkrin with interest. I agree with you there are no constructive comments on the internet. I have been using the standard, not high strength version for nearly 3 months now. My wife was a professional hairdresser and cuts my hair. She has confirmed noticeable new growth, thickening and a stop to any further loss. An improvement was noticeable after two weeks with steady progress thereafter. The pharmaceutical assistant that recommended the product said her husband had very good results after 6 months, but a rapid deterioration ensued when he stopped using it. After starting it again he has recovered the situation. I have not tried any other products and do not know whether this (expensive) product is better or worse than it’s rivals. I would be interested in other feedback regarding comparisons.

If you are getting a response from it, then continue using it. I am not against it, just do not know first hand the value of it, so I do not recommend something that I do not know. When I get comments like yours, that is encouraging, and I may very well change my mind. According to their website, the ingredients are:

  • Marine based extract of proteins and polysaccharides.
  • Vitamin C in the form of Acerola Cherry. This is the richest possible source of vitamin C.
  • Silica, which is a mineral and is essential in the connective tissue. Silica is an important mineral for reducing hair loss and maintaining strong healthy hair.
  • Horsetail Extract, which is the organic form of silica and increases the strength of the hair and revitalizes lifeless hair.
  • IgG Protein, which helps improve the environment in the digestive system aiding digestion.

I can not give you a comparison between these products and other such products as there is no scientific studies that make the comparisons.

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Loss of Donor Hair and Value of a Scalp Tattoo – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

I have had too many hair restoration procedures, the doctor told me last week. Now I am struggling to manage this big bald area on the back of my head. I saw (what I think was) a good doctor who said that the entire back of my head was solid scar. Any suggestions?

TattooI am assuming that having long hair does not cover the scarred area. One might consider the use of tattoo treatments to the donor area, starting off with a temporary henna tattoo in the balding donor area with a color that closely matches your hair color. Be sure that the tattoo artist who does it, does it will a stipple effect so that it looks like hair (not like the picture on the right). The henna tattoo is temporary and usually goes away in a few weeks and if it works (temporary) then you could step up and have it permanently done. I have seen a few people who have done this and it covered reasonably well but it is best woven with some hair to augment the effect. Be careful and be sure that you use somone who is knowledgeable in henna, as there are some potentially harmful variations out there. I’m not a henna expert, so I am just going by what I’ve read (for more, see Wikipedia – Henna).

You generally need some hair in the scar and most of the time a limited transplant into the scarred scalp can put enough hair to blend with the tattoo, It might be worth a try and with a temporary tattoo there as there is no long-term risk.


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Rogaine is Irritating My Scalp, Causing Transplanted Hairs to Fall Out – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Hi. i been using rogaine four months now. i had a hair transplant a year ago and i have shedding in the areas that were transplanted from rogaine and get irritation from it only when wearing a hat. Could it be my hat causing the the shedding at four month. And will transplanted hair grow back even if it been a year ?

It is difficult to know what is truly going on.

  1. Rogaine can cause irritation. If it is causing irritation, it should probably be stopped. I doubt that the irritation is causing hair loss unless you are scratching it.
  2. Wearing a hat can cause irritation. If it is causing irritation, you should stop wearing it. I doubt that the use of a hat is causing hair loss.
  3. Hair transplants should not fall out, since they are considered permanent. If hair transplants were to fall out (and never grow back) no one would be doing it. I doubt that the falling hair is the transplanted hair unless you are traumatizing it. It may be the hair that was originally there (native hair). If the transplanted hair falls out for whatever reason, it should grow back.

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Hair Loss InformationI’m Suspicious of Your Constant Hawking of Propecia – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi, thanks for this service. While I am somewhat suspicious of your constant hawking of propecia to the exclusion of topical solutions (pun intended) such as minoxidil in your earlier entries, I would still love any insights you have on that topic. I am a 25 year old man. At age 18 or 19 my internist noted some frontal hair thinning/loss, evident to me retrospectively when I examined pictures (esp. if flash was used). I was immediately placed on minoxidil, which seems to have not only arrested the loss but perhaps, over the last 6 or 7 years, even allowed some regrowth toward the front. Finally, now, at age 25, I am noticing some thinning and folicle miniaturization in the center and back of my head for the first time, though I am still at the point that only other balding men notice—my female friends and loved ones think I’m neurotic and that even my minoxidil use is unnecessary. What I wonder is whether I should expect acceleration of the loss or merely loss at the same rate; if the loss rate itself is constant then I think I’ll try to hold on by using topical minoxidil.

Second, if I were to switch to a dht blocker, would you recommend avodart or propecia, and would you recommend cessation of minoxidil? I worry that after 6+ years my hair could do unpredictable things without the minoxidil. Lastly, I don’t think I yet qualify on any of those charts as balding, though I myself notice some thinning and, of course, many hairs in my hands when using hair products.
Thanks.

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A DHT blocker impacts the cause of male patterned hair loss, so it is the best approach to use a drug that is known to be effective and safe. Avodart is not proven to be effective or safe (no scientific study for hair loss victims) for treating hair loss, but I believe that it is effective. Notice I did not say I believed it to be safe, because long term use of this drug has been on older men with prostate problems, not young men with hair loss problems. Is there a long term Vioxx type problem hiding in the closet? I don’t know, nor does anyone really know.

Norwood 3vI tell everyone who is on minoxidil that when it is working to stay on the topical medication, for stopping it often causes ‘catch up hair loss’. Frontal hair loss and early crown hair loss indicate you may be a Norwood Class 3V pattern. You need to have your hair and scalp mapped out for miniaturization to make the diagnosis, otherwise you are flying blind.

I have no connection to Merck (producers of Propecia) and I am not ever paid by them for my opinions on this drug. I do not now, nor have I ever owned stock of this company (as I’ve stated before), so I am clean in expressing my opinions on this drug, because it has had wonderful results that I have seen in many of my patients.

Hair Loss InformationWhy Might Xanax Cause Hair Loss, Rather than Anxiety? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi,
First of all I’m a 29 yr old male with extreme anxiety. I’ve read a couple of posts on this site about Xanax & hair loss. In every question asking about whether Xanax can cause hair loss, you mention that it definitely can.

As I stated earlier, I have an anxiety disorder & have just recently started taking the generic version(1mg 3 times a day) of Xanax again. Can you explain to me how & why the Xanax would cause hair loss? I’m just REALLY concerned now after reading about that. I was thinking that extreme anxiety would be more likely to cause hair loss than Xanax?

If you could just give me any kind of explanation, I’d be extremely grateful.

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Occurrence of hair loss can be due to several factors. Although most the common cause of hair loss at your age is male pattern baldness, anxiety could be considered an aggravating factor for your hair loss. Hair loss is not one of the commonly known side effects of Xanax. We hear from our patients who just got started on Xanax that they lose hair, but it is hard to prove that their hair loss is really associated with Xanax or if it has to do with anxiety itself.