How Fast Can DUPA Take Effect?

I have a question about this condition which you call DUPA. Is its onset so sudden that you could go from having an overly thick head of hair to diffuse thinning including the sides and back in only 1 month. Also can chemical overprocessing make some of the individual hair strands thinner, because if so than I experienced it. I am torn between whether this is a chemical issue or I am suffering from sudden DUPA.

DUPA (diffuse unpatterned alopecia) will not appear in a month. If and when it hits, I suspect that it will develop over a long period of time (months to years). Chemical damage, on the other hand, will have a short cycle.

We do not understand a great deal about DUPA, but we are aware that the zone of hair around the sides and back of the head may not be permanent in everyone throughout their lifetime. If you go to an old age home and look at many of the men there, about 1/3rd to a half of the men over 80 have a see-through look on the sides and back of the head. When this is evaluated by mapping out the scalp for miniaturization, one sees many thin hairs in this ‘donor rim’ that should not be there. This diffuse alopecia may extend throughout the head, even in men who have no balding. I would venture to make the diagnosis of DUPA in these men. I believe that this condition, which the dermatologists have labeled ‘senile alopecia’, is something that hits men in all decades of life and a few men develop this condition when they are in their 20s or 30s. The use of Propecia has benefits to about half of these men, so I generally put people on Propecia who show signs of DUPA. Many of the poor transplant results that are seen occurs when the patient has DUPA and the surgeon does not check for it. The transplants become thin and the donor area, which was see through prior to the procedure, gets more see through after. I strongly warn every one of those patients I see with DUPA against having hair transplants and consider this condition a contra-indication for hair transplant surgery.

This is what we wrote about the various diffuse alopecias in a medical journal: “In addition to the regular Norwood Classes (I to VII) and the Norwood Class A’s (Ia to Va), there are two other types of male baldness that O’tar Norwood has termed “Diffuse Patterned Alopecia” and “Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia.” 2 Although these patterns receive little attention, they appear to be quite common and present special problems for the transplant surgeon. We have attempted to further define and stage these two types of balding in order to gain insight into their appropriate management.

Diffuse Patterned Alopecia (DPA) is an androgenetic alopecia characterized by diffuse thinning in the front, top, and vertex of the scalp in conjunction with a stable permanent zone. Diffuse Patterned Alopecia is usually associated with the persistence of the frontal hairline represented by the hairline position of the Norwood Class II or Class III patient. Especially in the earlier stages, the thinning generally extends to the vertex without significant hair loss in the crown. It differs from the regular Norwood classification in that, when the hair loss is first noted, it is already in a stage resembling a thinning Norwood Class VI, rather than having progressed through the Norwood stages III, III Vertex, IV, and V, which are characterized by continued recession at the temples, an expanding vertex/crown, and the presence of a defined bridge separating the anterior and posterior portions of the scalp. In addition, there is an absence of the residual triangular elevation in the parietal region that helps to define the typical Norwood Class VI patient.

Diffuse Patterned Alopecia differs from the less common Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia (DUPA) which is also androgenetic, but lacks a stable permanent zone. Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia patients have a similar progression of balding as the DPA patient except that the progression is often more rapid and will more likely eventuate in a “horseshoe pattern” resembling the Norwood class VII, except that in contrast to the Norwood VII, the DUPA “horseshoe” can look almost “transparent” due to the low density. The differentiation between DPA and DUPA is critically important because DPA patients are often good candidates for an appropriately timed transplant, whereas DUPA patients should almost never be transplanted because they will inevitably have extensive hair loss without a stable zone in which to harvest the hair.

Both Diffuse Patterned and Unpatterned alopecia also occur in women. However, in contrast to men, the DUPA in women is much more common, probably occurring 10 times as frequently as DPA. As in men, the female DUPA patients are not good candidates for a transplant (except in the instance where the donor hair is used solely to soften the frontal edge of a wig). The high incidence of Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia in women partly explains why so few women have their hair transplanted. It is also important to emphasize that a non-androgenetic differential must be considered in all unpatterned alopecias. This is especially true in women, where a host of medical conditions can produce diffuse unpatterned hair loss including anemia, thyroid disease, connective tissue disease, gynecological conditions, and severe emotional problems.

We find densitometry to be helpful in distinguishing Diffuse Patterned Alopecia from Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia. A donor density in the range of 1.0 to 1.5 hairs/mm 2 with donor miniaturization in excess of 35% indicates an unstable permanent zone and precludes a diagnosis of DPA. As discussed in the section “Predicting Short- and Long-Term Hair-Loss,” these densitometry readings in a younger patient, even with little clinically apparent hair loss, point toward a high risk of extensive balding. The importance of densitometry is that not only will it help to distinguish between DPA and DUPA, but it can help to predict which patient will not be a good candidate for a transplant even before visible balding has begun. “


2007-07-11 14:45:17How Fast Can DUPA Take Effect?

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How effective is oral minoxidil?

I’m 21 and I’ve used minoxidil in the past (foam and liquid), but it was just too much of a hassle to apply consistently so I never saw any gains. Has anyone here used oral minoxidil with good results?

Oral minoxidil can be effective for male patterned hair loss. For many years, poorer countries have been using it successfully for male patterned hair loss before finasteride was released in their country. In India, for example, many people couldn’t afford Propecia and genetic finasteride wasn’t available so oral minoxidil was the only drug for hair loss.


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How Fast Do Transplanted Hairs Shed?

I am 2.5 weeks post-op, and already seem to be shedding transplanted hairs in the recipient area. This seems quick to me. Are transplanted hairs shed quicker if there is no or minimal crusting post-op ?

Transplanted hairs shed in 19 out of 20 patients and they usually start shedding at 10 days or so, unless the crusts remain (which will hold onto the hair inside the crusting). I prefer having no crusts, as these grafts are more secure in their recipient sites.

One patient out of 20 will grow out their hair without shedding the transplant hair (no dormant phase), and these remarkable patients have 2 inch long hairs at 4 months post-procedure… and great joy from beating the odds


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How Important Is It to Take Propecia at the Same Time Daily?

How much does taking Propecia at exactly the same time each day matter? I try to take it within 10 minutes or so, but occasionally I am 2 to 3 hours late. I know you have said that the half life of the medication is only fours. By the time 24 hours passes, has essentially all the medication left the body so that if you don’t take it again at exactly the same time you are going that extra time without Propecia? Will taking it a few hours late cause a decrease in benefits?

Thank you for keeping up with this blog. It’s a great resource.

It is not critical to take Propecia at the same time each day, but it does make sense. I take my medications in the morning so I develop a routine and do not have to remember if I took them. Maybe it’s my age. As long as you take it daily, you shouldn’t see any decrease in benefits by taking it a few hours later than the day prior.

How important is hair, really?

I’ve been using finasteride and minox for years and it saved my hair. Ofcourse I am happy with that, but comparing it to earlier, when I was super obsessed with my hair, it seems less important today. Do you think you’ll continue treatments for a long time, even into old age, or at one point not really care anymore?

I just did 3000 grafts on a wealthy and successful businessman who actually didn’t want to do the hair transplant; however, his best friend who I transplanted last year, looked so good, he got pressured into it by this friend. Now that the surgery is over, he told me this story and also told me that the procedure was a delightful day away from his pressures at work and home. He was happy that he did it.

In my experience, with thousands of hair transplants under my belt, I found that 100% of the men who underwent the transplant, found that they felt better about themselves when they look into the mirror, regardless of marital status or independent wealth.

What is a good donor area for hair transplants?

How good does the donor area have to be to achieve that amount of coverage with the amount of hair loss he started with taken into account? Does the patient have to have a very dense donor area or would just an “average donor” area be enough?

An average donor area will work fine. A medium hair shaft or thicker hair shafts produce more fullness per graft than a fine hair this is important. It is not unusual for a fine haired person to have a second hair transplant to get more fullness

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How Long Can I Skip Propecia for Without Problems?

I take propecia. It works. I’ve taken it for about 6 months. How long can I miss a dose? If I miss a day, I know it says just take one the next day. But will my hair fall out, and then the program just restart? Is there a site describing the way the drug works in your body, that would help me get this idea down? How much time can you miss?
Thanks.

Well, I wouldn’t suggest that you try to miss a dose. If you should miss a day, I doubt that it would produce measurable hair loss. Same goes for two skipped days… but 1 week starts to creep up on you and one month certainly will not be good. I have only seen 3 months of stopping Propecia where significant hair loss occurred. Don’t make it a regular habit of skipping days, though.


2008-12-22 08:26:59How Long Can I Skip Propecia for Without Problems?

How Fast Does Hair Loss Occur?

Hi Dr. Rassman,

First, thank you for making this blog available. It’s great and tremendously helpful. Here’s my situation: I am 25 years old. My 65 year dad has major baldness and my mom’s brother have had issues with balding too, so my future is not good. My hair was normal until a year ago, when I graduated from university and got a job that’s stressful. Since then, my hair has been disappearing. The crowns are rising and my thick hair has become thin… losing about 40% in volume already.

Does balding happen this fast? And is it all this stress that I’m dealing with? I thought I’d have normal hair until my 30s, but I have to deal with this now unfortunately.

Thanks

If you have genetic hair loss, you should map out the scalp and hair for miniaturization and then (assuming you are genetically balding) go on finasteride (Propecia), which will slow down and possibly even reverse the hair loss you are experiencing.

There’s no one true answer to each of your questions. Everyone loses hair at different rates and stress can certainly accelerate it. Seek out medical attention, as the earlier you start treating it, the better will be your future with the hair you still have left.