Hair Loss InformationRecommending Finasteride Despite Web Forum Outrage – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Good day Dr. Rassman,
I´ve read many of your posts considering Finasteride as generally safe treatment and that IF side effects occur they are withdrawn by discontinuing the drug. So, you imply that any problems caused by Fin are not permanent.

After browsing through propeciahelp.com and reading literally thousands of very sad stories, I must blame you for not mentioning some very important informations, including prevalent loss of libido, impotency, brain fog, muscle atrophy and many other serious complications which exist many years after taking the last dose, and it is not known if they will ever subside. Why are you so very keen on recommending Fin despite these facts?

To say it bluntly, do you sacrifice one man´s balls, muscles and brain so another 99 can have their hair?

Have you already forgotten your Hippocratic Oath?

your reader

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OathI’ve written about this issue many times before on BaldingBlog (some examples are here, here, and here). There are no peer-reviewed, published studies to back up what you’re claiming, and anonymous people on internet message boards just don’t cut it. Anyone can go on and complain about issues they have that might be real, but unrelated to the use of the medication. Don’t get me wrong, forums can be a great place to discuss things (I have my own hair loss forum), but you need to take the information you gather from anonymous people with a grain of salt. If some random guy you’ve never met just walked up to you on the street and screamed that Coca-Cola was made out of cabbage, you’d just dismiss him as crazy… but if someone posted it in an online forum, you might give it some consideration (or research it further). I wonder why that is, but I hope you get my point. The claims of permanent side effects are unproven and seem to be popular amongst forum posters that look to point the finger without basis or just folks trying to steer you to another product that they just happen to be selling.

I’m keen on recommending the medication because I’ve seen it work. Make no mistake, I don’t downplay side effect risks… but the truth is, those risks are quite low and reversible in every case I’ve seen. It’s also important to remember that while I do recommend finasteride for treating hair loss, it is ultimately up to the patient and his prescribing physician to decide if it is the right course of action. To sum it all up, nobody is forced to take this medication (it is elective — hair loss isn’t a death sentence), and there has not been any proof to your claims of seeing side effects “many years after taking the last dose“.

I Stopped Rogaine After the Makers Told Me It Would Only Work in the Crown – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I’ve been using Minoxidil for a number of years but wasnt sure if it was working. I definitely lost hair in the crown area even though I was using the product so I got hair transplant. I called the makers of Rogaine to see if using the product would be an issue with the transplants and was told it only works for the crown area anyway. With that in mind I figured I would stop using. That was probably a mistake as I now see the rest of my head thinning out rapidly and can only assume its from stopping using Rogaine. Would you suggest going back on Rogaine and what should I be mentally prepared for if I do? I would be devastated if more hair is lost as a result of going back on it. They do say to expect hair loss at the beginning of use. Please help! thanks

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RogaineMinoxidil, when used and then stopped, can result in “catch-up” hair loss. Since you were already using the Rogaine for years, it was probably retaining your crown — if you hadn’t used it, your crown hair could’ve been gone already. It’s hypothetical, of course, since I have no way of knowing what might’ve happened to your scalp had you not used the treatment for so long.

I don’t know what type of mental preparation you should try, but just hope for the best. These medications don’t work the same for everyone, so I can’t tell you for sure what will happen. The hair may or may not come back, but there is little downside for trying. Keep your fingers crossed and your hopes high.

Did Propecia Elevate My SGOT and SGPT (Liver) Levels? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dear Dr. Rassman,

I am a 32 year old male with Norwood class 3.In December beginning I had started Propecia and continued with it for 7 weeks. I experienced no apparent side effects and in fact felt more energetic. There was no initial hair loss and at end of 3 weeks my hair felt fuller and it seemed that there was a decrease in hair loss ( lose fewer while combing/shampooing ).

During the 7th week a test revealed some of liver function indicators were elevated:

Value Range
A/G RATIO 1.29 1.2-2.0:1
SGOT(AST) 45.00 U/L 10 – 42
SGPT (ALT) 74.20 U/L 10.00 – 47.00

Subsequently, while still on Propecia, I also got these tested for

TESTOSTERONE 708.0 ng/dl 166 – 877 ng/dl
FREE TESTOSTERONE 4.88 pg/ml 4.25 – 30.37 ng/dl
DI-HYDRO 522.3 pg/ml 250 -990 ng/dl
TESTOSTERONE

A couple of years back testing for DHT had revealed that it was 3 times the upper limit. I was not treated for it.

I would really like to get back on to Propecia. Do you have any insights why SGOT/SGPT are elevated ( A few weeks before starting my Doctor had gotten me tested and LFT were normal then ) ? Could conversion of excessive DHT to Testosterone have caused such ? Would it be safe for me to restart Propecia ?

Regards

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LiverThis is a question you need to ask your doctor. There are many possible factors that could be in play:

  1. To my knowledge, Propecia use will not impact liver function. If you have liver disease, you may have to reduce the dose of finasteride you are taking to take the disease into account.
  2. It can be a coincidence.
  3. It can be from alcohol use the night before.
  4. It can be from other drug use. Many drugs are metabolized by the liver and Propecia is not unique.
  5. It can be an insignificant temporary finding, but unlikely.
  6. It can be from an infection you are not aware of.
  7. The list goes on and on…
  8. I generally do not pay too much attention to testosterone or DHT blood levels. Consider this: If your DHT level and testosterone levels are low (or high) and you are balding, are you going to do anything different? Because chances are, Propecia would still be recommended since genetic androgenic alopecia is visible. Genetic androgenic alopecia is diagnosed with a physical exam and a miniaturization study, not a lab test. I understand there are now genetic tests that can give you a “probability” score for androgenic alopecia, but sometimes even genetic testing does not really change the medical course of action.

    One particular 18 year old patient I recently saw paid a few hundred dollars for genetic testing for androgenic alopecia at another medical group. The results were mailed to him and according to what he said, the doctor never followed up with him. He had no sign of balding, no hair loss, and no miniaturization. He had the test done because his grandfather was bald and he was afraid of going that same route. His results showed a “probability” of androgenic alopecia, but all it really did is tell him that he was carrying the gene for balding. Just carrying the gene does not mean that the gene will be expressed, as some men who carry the gene never go to clinical balding. The report given to him got him extremely worried and instead of following up with the medical group (who tried to sell him shampoos and lasers) he came to see me.

    In my opinion, in this particular case the genetic test was a source of misery and misrepresentation. Sure, there may be a possibility that he may lose hair to some degree and have androgenic alopecia in his future, but I did not recommend any course of action (not even Propecia) for him, as he had absolutely no sign of balding or miniaturization.

Hair Loss Started Again After a Couple Years on Propecia – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Hello,
I have been taking Propecia now for about 2 1/2 years and believe it has slowed my hair loss down but has not stopped it. In the last 6 months I have noticed significant hair loss and thinning. What can I do? Also is Avodart or any other promising drugs soon to be approved to treat hair loss by the FDA? And if so when? Thank you for your time

Propecia does not show the same benefits forever. Every person will eventually lose the benefits of this drug, but the open question is when. Avodart might be more effective in people like you, but as you know, it is not FDA approved for use in treating hair loss. I couldn’t say when or if it will be approved for this, nor do I have any inside tips on upcoming drugs that are pending approval. There’s a lot of money to be made if a medication can be proven safe and effective, so I’m sure there are companies out there trying to find the next best treatment. I just don’t know who they are…

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Finasteride and the Swedish Medical Products Agency – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

This is continued from my response an hour ago about finasteride and the Swedish Medical Products Agency (MPA). The question was:

What is your opinion about the Swedish Medical Products Agency 2008 study that supports permanent side effects from the use of finasteride?

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MPAAs I said in my earlier response, “If you believe in the study, do not use Propecia. Many of the reports that I read are on bulletin boards which are suspicious.

What that boils down to is that I’m not going to try to convince people to use a medication if they’re already so convinced it’ll do them harm. I’m not a sales rep and it isn’t my job to make guarantees about medications or provide incentives for you to take it. It’s an elective medication. You don’t have to take it if you don’t want to. If you’d rather believe message boards than published reports in medical journals, then by all means that is your choice to make.

But I’ll elaborate more with some interesting tidbits from the Swedish Medical Products Agency (sources: here and here). Some key points I found:

  1. In clinical studies, single doses of finasteride up to 400 mg and multiple doses of finasteride up to 80 mg/day for three months (n=71) did not result in dose-related undesirable effects.
  2. Drug-related sexual undesirable effects were more common in the finasteride-treated men than the placebo-treated men, with frequencies during the first 12 months of 3.8% vs 2.1%, respectively. This means 3.8% of men taking Propecia had undesirable sexual effects and 2.1% men taking a fake sugar pill had undesirable sexual effects. The incidence of these effects decreased to 0.6% in finasteride-treated men over the following four years. Approximately 1% of men in each treatment group discontinued due to drug related sexual adverse experiences in the first 12 months, and the incidence declined thereafter.
  3. People that are up in arms about the Agency listing “persistent difficulty having an erection after discontinuation of treatment” as a possible side effect should also realize this is listed under the “frequency unknown” section. In other words, they received complaints about it (how many hasn’t been established), but it is not a proven effect.

Motorcycle Helmets, Finasteride, and Guarantees in Life – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi, I have a few questions regarding hair loss and finasteride.

  1. Does tight motorcycle helmet causes hair loss.I’ve notice increased hair loss since i regularly started wearing full face helmet which is a bit tight on my hairline and genera crown area.
  2. Could it be possible to experience hair loss due to lack of iron mineral?
  3. Propecia is being advocated very often but how is it logical not considering the loss of 70% of your DHT as a serious issue which is in essence the maleness hormone from a young age of 23?
  4. What is your opinion about the Swedish Medical Products Agency 2008 study that supports permanent side effects from the use of finasteride?
  5. I am prone to depression and sexual problems due to antidepressants from time to time, do you still recommend finasteride in my case?
  6. Can you guarantee from your expertise that side effects subside even if you quit the drug after e.g 3 years or more of continued use?

Thanks

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  1. There is one patient I have seen that had traction alopecia from wearing a very tight fitting helmet everyday for a year. The hair loss did not look like genetic male pattern balding, but the balding area was where the helmet was rubbing on the side of the head. So it is possible, but not common.
  2. A lack of iron in your diet can cause anemia (low red blood cells). Your mucosal membranes (under the eyelids and gums) will be pale, you will feel weak, and you will have other serious medical issues before hair starts to fall out. Hair should be the last of your worries.
  3. Men in their early 20’s take Propecia without adverse effects associated with lowering of their DHT levels.
  4. If you believe in the study, do not use Propecia. Many of the reports that I read are on bulletin boards which are suspicious. I’ll point out some interesting tidbits about this in my next post…
  5. This is something you’ll need to discuss with your doctor. Assuming you would be a good candidate for Propecia based on your hair loss, your doctor will need to make the decision if you’re a candidate based on your history of depression. There shouldn’t be a problem with taking the medications together though.
  6. There really is no guarantees in medicine (or in life). Actually, the only two guarantees in life are death and taxes. I do not give reassurances to someone who is afraid to use a medication. This is something you need discuss with your doctor.

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Can I Empty Dutasteride Capsule into Water? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi,

Like a previous case, I’m a vegetarian who takes Dutasteride (Dr Reddy’s) 0.5 mg one dose daily for hair loss. I have seen better results with this medication than with finasteride (no results at all). The trouble is I’m unhappy with the fact that the capsule itself has gelatin contents.

I understand that it’s advised to have the capsule swallowed whole because of some sort of risk of irritation. However, would it be permissable to empty the contents into a full glass of water and take the medicine like this?

Any help and advise would be most appreciated.

Kindest regards.

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Gel capsulesYou are asking about using a different method for taking a medication that is intended to be swallowed. I suppose you can try it, but I don’t know if that would compromise the efficacy of the medication. You can try contacting the Dr Reddy’s Laboratories here, but I’d assume they’d tell you that the capsule should be swallowed whole.

I’m not an expert on generic dutasteride and its variations, but there might be another company out there that makes a pill that isn’t a soft gel capsule.

Would Using Minoxidil Only Periodically Make Hair Loss Worse? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hello, i know that minoxidil is supposed to be used every night before bed. My question is, due to my extremely busy lifestyle and lack of routine i sometimes go a week without using minoxidil. If i use it for three days then dont use it again for a week then use it again for three days in a cycle, besides it not working well enough as it needs to be everyday is it actually making my hairloss worse in the sense that if its causing shedding (which is a sign its working) then not using the treatment again for a week, is it basically just shedding my hair and because im then not using it again for a week the hairs that ‘would have been’ stronger and healthy because of the minoxidil are just the thinning hairs that are not being protected by minoxidil. Am i just basically shedding my hair faster?

thank you

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To my knowledge, minoxidil will not work on an irregular schedule, particularly one that fits into your lifestyle. Either use it regularly or forget about using it. If you’re seeing continued hair loss, it’s more likely that its just your genetics continuing the process (which was the reason you were using minoxidil in the first place).

How Long Can a Single Dose of Propecia Stay in the Body? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dear Dr. Rassman,

I’ve read here that a single dose of Finasteride can stay in one’s body for up to 7 days or more: regrowhair.com

Do you think it’s true?

Thank you! Best Regards

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PropeciaThere are many resources for information as well as misinformation. Some sources say finasteride half life is 4-5 hours. Some say it is 8 hours. My Epocrates drug database says it is 6 hours. Half life is the time it takes for 50% of the drug to be out of your bloodstream. So if you assume that the half life is 6 hours, then most of the medication should be out of your bloodstream and excreted out of your body in a day or so (it is excreted in your feces and urine). But being out of the bloodstream does not always correlate with it being out of your body per se, because some form of the medication is left in your tissue. In general, this minute amount is not enough to affect the physiologic goal that was intended, so we have to take the medication at the corresponding interval to keep a consistent level in your body. Propecia (finasteride 1mg) has a recommended dosing of one pill, once a day. This makes sense, because most of the drug is out of the bloodstream in one day.

For the conspiracy theorists…

Now, the confusing part to those who scour the Internet for conspiracy theories and mistrust in the medical and scientific world is that it has been shown that after stopping Propecia there seems to be a suppression of the DHT levels even after one day (when Propecia is out of your bloodstream). There is no clear explanation of why this is. You can also theorize that maybe it takes a while for the DHT to return back to its normal levels in a few days after stopping Propecia. There is no clear answer that I can find, but I suppose some may advocate taking Propecia every other day. I personally would follow the recommended dosing and discuss any changes with your doctor.

For those that still don’t believe…

You want more science? Let’s use the finasteride packaging study as the source: Following an oral dose of 14C-finasteride (radioactive dose) in men, approximately 39% (32-46%) of the dose was excreted in the urine in the form of metabolites. Virtually no unchanged drug was excreted in the urine and 57% (51-64%) of the total dose was excreted in the feces. The elimination rate of finasteride decreases somewhat with age. Mean terminal plasma half-life is approximately 5-6 hours (3-14 hours) and in men more than 70 years of age the half life rises on average to 8 hours (6-15 hours range). These findings are of no clinical significance and hence, a reduction in dosage in the elderly is NOT warranted.

To conclude…

To all who are utterly confused by now, I say this: Propecia is a medication to help men who have androgenic alopecia. Propecia does not cure androgenic alopecia, but it does slow it down. Propecia has its side effects, but as with all drugs you have to consider the risks as well as benefits and after discussing all the options with your physician you have a choice! Finally, the recommended dose of Propecia is once a day. If you want to take it any other way, that’s between you and your doctor. This is not rocket science and there should not be confusion in this matter. It is a simple drug to take with clear instructions. The rest are just mental masturbation, hypotheticals, and Internet hype.

Chewing Propecia – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Hello Dr.

Do you have any opinions on chewing up Propecia vs swallowing it? Is it true if you chew it, there is better change of all getting absorbed? Or would chewing it somehow ruin in the inherent chemical makeup? Thanks.

Some medications are meant to be chewed, but if the medication is meant to be swallowed, I would swallow it as it is written in the instructions. Propecia is one of those medications that was meant to be swallowed. I really do not believe it would help with the absorption if you chewed it, plus, I don’t think it would taste all that great.

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