How Long Can I Cheat Mother Nature with Propecia? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi Dr. Rassman,

Your blog has been an absolutely indispensable resource for me in the last month, and I can’t thank you enough!

I am a 30 year-old male, and I recently noticed that my hairline in the front and sides has receded about a centimeter or two past what is considered the normal hairline (according to one of your previous posts). I went to a dermatologist and she confirmed that there was in fact some slight recession at the temples (beyond what is the mature hairline), and also some very slight thinning on top. She did this all by sight, and did not have a densitometer in her office (nor did she claim to use one). She then prescribed Propecia, and I have been taking it religiously for the past month.

I also had my hair mapped out during a free consultation at the Philadelphia Hair Club. The woman who examined my scalp pointed out that I had some very early miniaturization at different points on my head (top, crown), and even some in the permanent zone on the back of my head (which she said was probably due to stress). I honestly can’t remember if she noticed any miniaturization beyond my front hairline and temple prominences.

My father is 60 years old and is somewhere between a 5 & 6 on the Norwood scale. (Unfortunately, I don’t have any information about my paternal grandfather as my father was adopted.) My maternal grandfather was somewhere between a Norwood 6/7 when he passed away at age 85, and my maternal uncle is currently at about a Norwood 3 (vertex) at the age of 50. I don’t know if this is important, but I do resemble my uncle quite a bit in terms of appearance and body type.

If I am a good responder to Propecia, how long do you think I will be able to cheat mother nature and keep most of what I have right now (which is still a hell of a lot)?

Thank you.

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If you’re a good responder, Propecia (or perhaps a future medication somewhere down the line) could help retain the hair you have for as long as you take it. The potential is there. Some men report seeing their hair loss pick up around the 5 year mark, but I’ve got patients that have taken it for well beyond that and their hair still looks great. It’s really not something I could guess about, but if you keep your fingers crossed…

My Doctor Doesn’t Know Why I’m Losing Hair In the Crown – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Recently I noticed that I have a slightly thinning crown. I went to the dermatologist and he said hes not really sure what is happening but said that it might be male pattern baldness. My father (an internest, who happens to be bald) looked at it, as did my pediatrician and they both said the follicles look healthy, and my pediatrician said hes not sure, could be alopecia areata or male pattern baldness. He didnt know. My pediatrician told me to use 5% monoxidil once a day for about 2 months and to come back to him. However i heard that if you do not know the reason of your hairloss you can cause permanent damage. Im really confused and dont know what to do

I am 18 years old. Is it true that if you use Rogaine on existing hair you can destroy that hair? I put it on my hairline, (norwood class 2. My oldest brother (26 years old) has the same hairline as i do and he doesnt show signs of balding, my other brother (23 years old) has a norwood class 1 hairline, but he has grey hairs – my mother started getting grey hair around that age, which is making me worry i have my fathers genes b/c i dont have grey hairs) and im worried that i might damage the hair. I also notice that when i put it on my head im coming back with alot of hair in my hand.

I went through a very stressful time and i also wasnt eating very well (im studying overseas now for the year…). I limited most of the food they gave us and mainly ate salads, and even then i would work out about an hour later to work it all off. – at first i thought might be telogen effluvium but its just in my crown so im a little worried. Thank you

Rogaine (minoxidil) should not destroy existing hair, but I don’t know that Rogaine would do much good at the hairline anyway. It might work, but I can’t say for sure one way or the other. If you’re experiencing hair loss in the crown, that should be where you’re using the Rogaine. Or even better, talk to your physician about a prescription for Propecia (which works wonders in the crown) if you’ve got genetic hair loss. I don’t want to guess if you’re experiencing hair loss due to genetic causes or stress or what… but if your primary care physician isn’t too sure, I’d try to seek out a dermatologist or even a hair transplant doctor (only because they know hair well, not because you should even consider a surgical procedure at your age). With early thinning in the crown, it certainly doesn’t sound like alopecia areata. If you saw bald spots all over your scalp, that would be a different story.

The hair loss gene can come from either side of the family and can even skip generations, so just because you lack grey hairs doesn’t mean you’re not going to inherit a hair pattern that someone else in your family had. There is no substitute for an expert who can examine your hair and tell you if you have genetic balding. There is even a genetic test for the balding gene that is available today for about $250.

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Vitamin E Might Reverse MPB? – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Hi,

Any comments? any advice? about this article? please!! nutraingredients.com

Kind Regards

Here’s the first couple lines from the article, which basically sum up the points I want to make:
Daily supplements of a patented tocotrienol (vitamin E) complex may increase hair growth in people with male pattern baldness by 42 per cent, suggests a new study from Carotech. The eight month randomized, placebo-controlled trial involved 28 volunteers with androgenetic alopecia (male pattern baldness), and was performed at the School of Pharmaceutical Sciences at the University of Science Malaysia.

The study is limited because it was done with only 28 people participating. So I would think about 14 people got the actual vitamin E and the other 14 got the placebo. You don’t have to be a doctor to make your own assessment on this one, as this is poor science. In fact, one of the volunteers that was taking the placebo even saw hair growth!

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Hair Loss InformationPropecia Causes Weight Gain? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

hi doctor Rassman. Is it true that propecia can cause weight gain due to its antiandrogentic properties? I heard that androgens like testosterone and DHT promotes fat loss in the body. Also, would taking propecia affect the heart at all? I read on propecia forums of users reporting heart synptoms after using the drug. Some reported a “dipping” feeling of the heart. I really wanna try the drug but now im highly discouraged by these negative claims.

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PillsNot everything you read on the Internet is always true. There may be a great wealth of information available, but I wouldn’t rely on the Internet for your source of medical diagnosis and treatment. A doctor will know better than some anonymous guy on a forum that has no liability or reputation (not to mention experience or even a real name). You need to see a good doctor and ask him/her if you have genetic balding… and if you do, talk to them about taking Propecia. I have not heard of such weight gain side effects from the patients I treat and side effects are rare in general with Propecia.

Keep in mind that all medications can have side effects. Have you ever taken Tylenol or Advil? Do a search for the side effects of those medications and you will likely lose more hair over it (pun intended). For example, Advil side effects include rash, ringing in the ears, headaches, dizziness, drowsiness, abdominal pain, nausea, diarrhea, constipation and heartburn (see full list).

I’ve Been Losing Hair for a Year and a Half – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

I could really use some advice. I am 28 years old and started to notice my temples recedding about 1 1/2 years ago. I started using rogaine but after about 3 months I stated shedding alot of hair. I went to see a dermatologist and they did a hair pull test and told me that it was MPH and that I should use propecia. Once i started using propecia I started shedding alot of hair but I have stuck with it because I read that shedding occurs on these medications put generally the lost hair returns. Well after a year and half I lost alot of hair and none of the shedded hair has returned. I went from a NW 1 or 2 to a NW Va in a year and a half.

So I am thinking about see my physician again and I was wondering if there are any tests that I should have them do to help with my hair loss problem. If you know of any good hair loss doctors in the Seattle area I would appreciate any recommendations. I also may be traveling to the L.A. area next week for work and was wondering If you would be willing to meet with me.

I have to take your word on what you had when you first noticed the hair loss process. Usually, a 28 year old man does not ‘fast-track’ hair loss, especially when taking Propecia. I am humbled by the few people who show very rapid hair loss while using finasteride (Propecia) and find this phenomenon very, very rare. One of the genetic tests may show what you can expect from Propecia, so it might be worthwhile getting the test (see here), but it will not reverse the hair loss that you experienced. Of course, I would be pleased to meet with you, but it does sounds like you have genetic hair loss that has been fast-tracking its course. I don’t have any recommendations in Seattle at this time.

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Hair Loss InformationWhy Don’t Studies Discuss Type I or Type II DHT? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

In all of the studies trying to determine whether natural supplements like saw palmetto or green tea block DHT, they never refer to Type I DHT or Type II DHT — just DHT. Why is this? Good question, huh?

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Propecia vs AvodartGood question. Propecia (finasteride 1mg) blocks mainly DHT type II, and Avodart (dutasteride) blocks both DHT type I & II. You would think if you block ALL the DHT it would be better against androgenic alopecia. Dutasteride is three times more potent than finasteride inhibiting the type II enzyme and 100 times more potent than finasteride inhibiting the type I form of the DHT producing enzyme. There are clinical observations that suggest that dutasteride is better than finasteride, but it is not approved for hair loss by the FDA and the long term safety on human reproduction for dutasteride (reports of sterility is a complication) have been suggested in some rare patients. We have received many reports by varying doctors who switch people from finasteride to dutasteride and get a better response. The next logical question should be: If we increase the finasteride dose to 5 mg or so, will it be better to treat hair loss? I don’t know if anyone really knows that answer for sure. Some of the original studies on finasteride suggested that the 1mg dose is the most universal dose, but it may be that a high dose in those who are refractory to finasteride may help. Some doctors are using a higher dose of finasteride on long term users. It’s a prescription drug, so I’m not suggesting you should take a higher dosage. The problems for either finasteride and dutasteride is that side effects rise when increasing dosages.

To get back to your question though — it’s been proven that type II is linked to male pattern baldness, but type I hasn’t been linked yet (though it’s possibly just not been proven yet). I couldn’t tell you why the studies out there don’t provide a breakdown by type, but I have not found scientific evidence that saw palmetto or even green tea actually block DHT anyway. And even if it did block some DHT, there is nothing in the literature that shows saw palmetto or green tea being effective for treating androgenic alopecia. I don’t mean to be a pessimist, but even Propecia does not completely stop androgenic alopecia.

The real quest should be finding other (non- DHT related) mechanism for androgenic alopecia. DHT is not the only solution out there… we just haven’t discovered the other yet.

Shock Loss Around Donor Scar After a Hair Transplant? – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Hi dr. rassman, thanks for the great blog

I have extensive shockloss around the scar from a recent strip hair surgery.

Do you think minoxidil would be good to help reverse the problem, and help the shocked hair to “fully” come back around the scar?

Loss of hair from around the scar is often the result of a surgical closure which was too tight. Sometimes the hair returns on its own and sometimes it simply doesn’t. Minoxidil won’t hurt, but probably will not help.

This has the potential to cause a very wide scar. Speak with your transplant surgeon about this problem and ask him/her if the closure was tight.

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Should I Take Steroids and Propecia Together? – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

doc,
i have used steroids and few years ago in my 20s and started to lose hair for a while. i went to a doctor and he told me take propecia, so i did for 8 months but my sex drive dropped. stopped taking propecia and now in my 30s i feel i need to take steroids to get my testosterone level to go back up. plus i am about to hit the gym again. my question to you is should i take propecia and steroids together so my hair doesnt fall out again? what should i do about low level of testosterone to bring it back up?

I am not your doctor and messing around with the steroids and Propecia is not a place where I wish to go, particularly over the internet. There is no doubt that taking steroids causes hair loss and although Propecia may help a bit, I doubt that it will prevent you from going with your genetic hair loss path.

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Ear Infection from Minoxidil? – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Doctor Rassman,

I have used minioxil and got ear infection, so I have stopped using it. Presently, I am only taking finasteride for the last 1 year and my hair loss has stopped. I was thinking of hair growth so could you please suggest any alternative to minioxil. Also, I have contacted a surgeon for hair transplant and he thinks that I do not need it right now as I have sufficient hairs. Please suggest.

I have reported on an association between ear infections and minoxidil in the past — see here. The use of Propecia alone may be enough without minoxidil (I am assuming that you did not use minoxidil very long). With regard to a hair transplant, I would need to see you to determine your candidacy.

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Graves’ Disease and Hair Loss – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Hello, I was wondering if you could help me understand a little bit about what Im going thru. At the current moment, The only thing I know is that I have hyperthyroidism. I dont know whats causing it yet, but soon I will find out. It could very well be Graves Disease. Well, because I have this its making my hair real thin and fall out. I was wondering if propecia could help me keep my hair? Is it safe while having a thyroid problem? Also would I have to go to a dermatologist to find out if my hair is falling out for another reason besides my Thyroid or what kind of Doc should I seek? Do you know of any Docs in the Houston area that you would highly recommend I should go see. Perhaps one that has knowledge of propecia/proscar? Thank you so much for any help/advice you could give me. Oh yea Im 29 years old if that makes any difference. Less than a year ago I swear it seemed like I was in perfect health hair or not. Now…well. Sorry this was so long. Thanks again.

Thyroid problems can cause hair loss and hair texture changes (as well as many other medical problems). You need to see your doctor and ask him/her these questions. Thyroid might be the cause of your hair loss, or it could be something else entirely. I cannot give you medical advice this way… not because I do not want to help, but because I have not examined you and taken a good medical history with you. I do not even know if you are a male or female! If you are female you should not be taking Propecia, but with Graves’ disease, I would not expect Propecia to work regardless if you are male or female.

I don’t have any physician recommendations in the Houston area, but About.com has some tips here. For more on hyperthyroidism, see thyroid-info.com.

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