Joint Pain from Propecia? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I am 22 years old. I have just recently stopped taking Propecia (after 8 months). I have played guitar since I was 16, but I started to feel pain in my left hand and arm about a month or so after starting Propecia (looking back on it). Turns out I had developed tendonitis in my left elbow (tennis elbow). Not attributing anything to Propecia, I took time off guitar (2 months), started typing with one finger, tried anti-inflammatories, started doing hand excersizes, started taking Hyaluronic Acid, Glucosamine, and Chondroitin, and finally started seeing a chiropractor about 3 months ago (who cannot explain why I have not been healing). Then, about 2 or 3 months ago, my right arm also developed joint pain and tendonitis as my left arm has stayed about the same despite me taking every effort and measure to heal the “injuries.” I finally started researching Propecia, and I have quit use as of yesterday being as I have tried everything else without success. I began to read about some of the side effects from people who have taken it, some of which I had not thought of attributing to the drug… like increased “tummy fat”. I had been a skinny guy all my life and I have gained about 25 pounds in 8 months(which is alot considering I only weighed about 125-130 before propecia!). I have also had a few bad experiences with difficulty ejaculating that I never had before proprecia. Of course I have never thought before now that Propecia could be the culprit. I have only found a couple of comments from random people so far on the internet about “joint pain” and propecia, what is going on?

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Many of your complaints may not be related to Propecia. Ejaculation volumes are often decreased on Propecia. I have had one other patient report weight gain. You could decrease the dosage (rather than go off the medication entirely), and see if that reduces your joint pain. Discuss this with your prescribing doctor.

At 22, have you developed a Master Plan for your hair loss with your doctor? Got your hair mapped out for miniaturization yet? You may not even need Propecia or it may not be the right thing to use for you. You are in control so take the driver’s seat.

When Does Hair Loss Stop? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dr.
I am an African American male who is 37 years old and started noticing my hairline receding at the age of 27. My hair loss at this point is not bad (probably class II). At the moment, I have no balding in the crown area but as I said earlier, my hairline is receding. My mom side of the house (brothers have full heads of hair) and my dad still had his hair before he passed at the age of 43. I have a few questions

1. At what point if any does your hair loss (receding)stops?
2. I decided a few years ago to take propecia after I started taking some other DHT blockers (procerin, kevis, follicure etc…). I even visited the hair club for men. Is there anything right now that I can do (laser therapy) that will continue to reduce hair loss.
3. Has avodart been approved for hair loss yet and would you recommended it?
4. Are there any good Dr’s you could recommend from my area (Hampton Roads are of Va)

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  1. Most people start their balding process in their early 20s, some like you in the late 20s and a few after 30. The general rule is that for those who have hair loss in their 20s, most of it will slow down by the mid 30s and by the time the person reaches 40-45, it should slow down even further. There are no real rules other than what you see. You can anticipate it by mapping out your hair for miniaturization to see what the future may hold for you.
  2. There is only one FDA approved, proven DHT blocker, however with that said, many products claim DHT blocking effects without the science behind those claims. You must, of course, make your own decisions. I’ve written about laser treatments quite a bit — see Low Laser Light Theraphy and the general “laser” keyword search.
  3. I do not prescribe Avodart, because it is not FDA approved to treat hair loss. It is doubtful that the drug company which produces it (GlaxoSmithKline) will seek FDA approval for hair loss.
  4. For doctors in your area, I would intervew those who are on the ISHRS.org website, for at least they are interested in education for themselves.

Does Minoxidil Strengthen Existing Hair? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi Dr., I know minoxidil does not block DHT but I was wondering if minoxidil strengthens existing hair, or if it just regrows a bit of new hair. Thanks for helping out so many people with your site!

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I believe that it does strengthen the hair on some people. Minoxidil is not, however, a reliable drug for either strengthening or regrowing hair in the majority of patients that take it.

Hair Loss InformationGNC Men’s Mega Men and Hair Loss, Follow-Up – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Doctor,
You recently mentioned (GNC Men’s Mega Men and Hair Loss) that a certain GNC multivitamin contains DHEA, which can produce hair loss as a side effect. I use the GNC mega men multivitamin, and I can’t find any mention of DHEA -or the full name of Dehydroepiandrosterone- in the ingredients. Does it go by a different name? I suspect one or more of the following ingredients: L-Arginine, L-Carnitine, L-Glutamine, L-Taurine, L-Valine, L-Leucine, L-Isoleucine.

I also take a protein shake that contains much larger quantities of L-Isoleucine, L-Leucine, L-Valine, and L-Glutamine. In addition, I take a creatine supplement with L-Glutamine, Taurine, Glycine, K-Arginine, and L-Methionine.

Ironically, I usually take these supplements alongside of a DHT blocker (first propecia, more recently Avodart) because I was experiencing thinning hair a while back. I’m under the impression some of these may increase DHT production in the body.

I would appreciate it if you could tell me which, if any, of these ingredients produce hair-loss, or increase DHT, as a side-effect.The good news is that I haven’t noticed any additional hair loss, but I would like to cease use of these products ASAP if they accelerate the hair loss process.

Thank you very much.

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My comments that reflected the presence of DHEA in the product GNC Men’s Mega Men come from the GNC.com website, where it states “Features DHEA, one of the most abundant hormones produced in the body and is a precursor to other hormones.. ”

DHEA can cause hair loss and that is all I have said about it. I am not against this product, just looking for things that cause hair loss and reporting what I learn to this audience.

With regard to the other listed nutrient supplements that you asked about, clearly a deficiency of any essential dietary elements in your diet can, by themselves produce hair loss.

L-Glutamine: There is a suggestion that high amount of this can cause increases in growth hormone, which could therefore produce hair loss if that association bares out.

Taurine, Glycine, K-Arginine, and L-Methionine : There is no direct association that I know of between taking amino acids supplement and hair loss. Any deficiency in these however, will produce hair loss. Good diets should alone produce adequate amounts of these essential nutritionals.

Taking Propecia When There Is No Hair Loss – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

To Dr. Rassman:

I am 19 years old, and my hairline has receded slightly. My mother insists that I am paranoid, and that my sense of paranoia is only exacerbated by my reading too many Philip Roth novels. But a few jokes here and there about my thinning hair from friends who don’t know about my “paranoia” has only confirmed me in my judgment.

I want to start taking Propecia. My question is, in the unlikely event that I’m completely wrong and am not balding at all and that my mother is actually correct but I go on Propecia anyway…are there any side effects from taking Propecia when it’s not “needed,” besides the ones reported (decreased libido, etc.) by those who do “need” it? On a side note, (forgive my naivete), are proscriptions of Propecia difficult to obtain? Thanks very much for your time and help.

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There is no point to blindly commit yourself to a lifetime of drug without a diagnosis. Be smart and get your hair mapped out for miniaturization to find out what is really happening. Many 19 year olds are developing a maturing hairline, not balding. Get a good doctor to tell you what is happening to you. Friends, at your age, can be cruel even if it is not intentional.

Using Rogaine When It Is Not Needed – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

i saw a dermatologist yesterday and she recommended that i take b complex and biotin. she also said that rogaine is not harmful. can rogaine cause hairloss if i dont need it and am using it.

thanks

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I think that you know the answer to that question. Rogaine has many side effect including skin irritation, dizziness and skin dryness to name a few. No one should take any medication that they do not need.

Using Minoxidil When Pregnant – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

is minoxidil safe in pregnancy?

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Any medication that you take on the skin will go through the skin and into the body. If the baby gets exposed to this drug by absorption through the skin, there’d be at least one report of babies with more hair than normal. Unfortunately, good studies are not available to answer this question. This may be an issue of benefits vs risks, so I would suggest that you ask your OB doctor and see if that causes him/her concern.

Folligen Spray, Dutasteride, and Sex Drive – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I’m 25 and I used finasteride for more than 3 years now, with no sucess at all. I also had a lot of problems with dandruff and irritation on my face and scalp. I was really worried about this, than I decided to take dutasteride. I’m also taking now minoxidil 2%, and using folligen spray and revivogen shampoo. I noticed some very little hairs in my left temple. Not too many. But I also felt a difference in my sex drive, and some shedding. My dandruff desapired, I think because anf the folligen, it really resolved my irritation in the first week. Do you think I should keep this treatment? Should I worry about the shedding and libido, or this could be a transitional state?

thanks a bunch!

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Finasteride may be working by preventing hair loss progression, but just not growing new hair. I gather that the dutasteride has reduced your libido, which is not a surprise at all. Folligen spray contains copper peptides which have had some unsubstantialed scientific claims for hair re-growth. I am happy to hear of your positive response to the dandruff with the routine you are using. Hair shedding and libido having appeared brings you to a decision: Is the benefits (or proposed benefits) worth the price? How do you rate your sex drive balanced against having hair?

Taking Propecia For Over 6 Years – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

I recently made a trip to my doc and he told me that he has known people that have been on propecia since it came out back in 97, and they are still on it and they still have their hair today. Can this be true, people taking it for over 6 years and it still being beneficial? I don’t think my doctor would lie, at least I hope not. What do you think. How come it only works for some patients and not for others? From your experience, those patients that have been on propecia for more than 6 years, have they retained all their hair?

Thank-you for answering my questions

Propecia will continue to work for as long as you take it. There is no guarantee that it will override the progressive nature of hair loss completely, but it will continue to help as long as you take it. If works better on some people than others, that is just the way it is. We are all different and we respond to our balding genetics differently.

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Proscar Warning Label and Possible Birth Defects – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dr. Rassman,

Thank you for continually answering questions on this forum. I am amazed how I routinely learn about hairloss by just reading the answers you post in response to other readers.

My question is about proscar. I’ve decided to switch to proscar over propecia because quite frankly, it is much more affordable to buy and split proscar into fours. I read in the past on this forum how you stated that Merck removed the warning about possibly passing Finasteride to a female through semen. My information leavelet that came with the Proscar had the following on it (women should not) “be exposed to the drug through sexual contact with a man taking Proscar”. It suggests that you should use a latex condom during sex. Does this mean that you should not try to have children while taking Proscar/Propecia? Does the fact that the dosage in split Proscar/Propecia is significantly lower than that of regular Proscar eliminate or reduce the risk for “birth defects” in a baby’s sex organs?

Also what you heard or know about a product advertised on TV by the name of Procede? They claim it is once every three months treatment.

Thank You

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MiddlesexWhat is known about finasteride is that if a baby in the womb is exposed to this drug (dosage is not understood) that the development of their sex organs and possibly the way their brain is wired (female vs male) may be influenced. Genital abnormalities can be created by the influence of this drug in the first trimester of pregnancy. These abnormalities, when associated with finasteride, had been observed when the natural form of finasteride was ingested in very, very large doses (based on the research of a mountain village in the Dominican Republic).

The warning by the drug company reflects that knowledge and that a risk may be present. These are clearly warnings that are meant to protect the drug company, but to my knowledge, even with the widespread use of Propecia in young men (over a million men) there are no reports that I know of that show that there is a link between women who got pregnant with their men on Propecia and the creation of genital abnormalities in any of their children. I have one of my sons on Propecia and when he is ready for a family, I will not recommend that he change his usage of this medication. He likes the hair that is now strong in the frontal area and was thinning before he started to use it.

A little bit of history (though having little to do with your exact question) — One of the untold stories in medicine are about the hermaphrodite whose sex is misdiagnosed at birth. The absence of a penis may cause a baby to be classified as female or the presence of a large clitoris, may cause the baby to be classified as male. These children are then raised according to the original sex designations from the birthing room. These situations lead to great tragedy. For those of you wanting to learn more about hermaphrodites, I suggest that you Google the term hermaphrodite. Also, I have recently read a best selling novel titled Middlesex by Jeffrey Eugenides (a Pulitizer Prize winning epic that follows many generations in a family that had a hermaphrodite inheritance pattern in the family line). It puts a face on this tragedy and is a recommended read.

With regard to Procede, please see past responses here.