Category: Drugs

Dr. Rassman,

I am an old patient of NHI (got HT in July, 2003). I have been on Propecia (or the generic equivalent of it made by Cipla, India) since June, 2003.
However, something had me worried recently. Please take a look at the following data –

Date Propecia Started – 6/2003

Date of Test – 1/8/2004 ALT – 53 (Propecia Daily)
Date of Test – 1/6/2006 ALT – 56 AST – 33 (4 times a week)
Date of Test – 3/8/2006 ALT – 47 AST – 29 (4 times a week, none before 2 days of test)
Date of Test – 5/21/2006 – CT-Scan – Fatty infiltration of Liver

What I gather from my Doctor is elevated ALT / AST and fatty liver is somewhat common. Though it makes me think Propecia has something to do with it.

At the same time, after making significant investment after two HT surgeries — and obtaining wonderful results – I’ll be sad to see my hair go! But if it comes between liver (or any other organ) and hair — I know what I will choose! I do not smoke, drink very occassionally and always moderate about it (was a heavy drinker in my 20s but!), has a healthy lifestyle (workout 3-4 times a week, no significant stress etc).

Can you shed some light on (long-term) impact of Propecia on Liver? I read about the “3-page report” Merck sent to you on Propecia’s effect on Liver. Can you share it with me so I can take it to my Doctor? All my research indicates that there’s nothing to be seriously worried about either fatty liver or elevated ALT — but I’m worried how this will impact my health in the long term (say, 10 years from now). I’m giving it a serious thought to either reduce the dosage (2-3 times a week) or totally stop it.

Let me tell you why I got CT-Scan done. I recently experienced some (right-sided) abdominal pain (possibly from Epididymitis / spasm caused by heavy lifting) that also radiated to my testicles and lower back. I got tested for blood, testicles, urine etc. several times – but there was nothing else wrong. So the Doctor ordered CT-SCAN and all they found was fatty liver. As you can see, I have a high level of ALT from Jan 2004 — and never experienced something similar; so the pain might be from weight lifting as the doctor(s) have suggested.

I will be interested to hear your opinion. Please let me know if you want me to schedule a visit – I will be more than happy to see you.

To my knowledge, finasteride (Propecia) does not have any adverse effects on the liver. Your liver enzyme values seem within normal limits and it can vary day to day and month to month and also by different lab techniques. It can also be affected by strenuous exercise like weight lifting and drinking alcohol. Fatty liver can also be a variation of the normal state (depending upon the amount of fatty infiltration), but it can also be seen in alcoholics, various forms of hepatitis, and other medical conditions. It seems you are concerned about your lab results and your medical diagnostic tests. You should definitely seek the advice of the doctor who ordered these tests. Even as a former patient, I do not hold myself out to be an expert in every facit of medicine today and use experts to help me manage difficult medical problems or even problems like yours which may not be clinically significant.

BaldingBlog is here as a general education forum and not meant to diagnose individual problems. I can only offer you my opinion that Propecia does not have adverse effects on the liver, but the reverse is important to those people with significant liver dysfunction (does not appear to be you) who may have to reduce the dose of Propecia, because the liver will not break it down fast enough. If you elect to reduce the dose, take a half pill a day rather than alternate days, because the half life of the drug is 4 hours and by the end of the first day, the drug is essentially gone from the blood stream.

As a patient of mine, come pay me a visit and I can expand upon these issues if you like.

In October I noticed slight thinning on the vertex and purchased 5% minoxidil. I applied this twice daily to the vertex for 2.5 months at most. I did not see any change at this time, but was tired of applying minoxidil twice a day and switched to propecia. I have now been taking propecia for 4.5 months and there is noticeable thinning on the vertex. I am also shedding quite a bit more than I ever have which has been going on for almost 2 months. I know that Propecia can awaken follicles and increase shedding, but how long does this last? Also, even though Minoxidil did not regrow any hair for me, can it have a negative effect on Propecia possibly reversing hair loss on the vertex even though I used it for only a short period of time and it did not produce any hair regrowth and thickening? Basically, did I screw myself by using minoxidil before Propecia?

No.

You may subjectively notice thinning and changes in your hair. However, it is impossible to tell what is working or not working. Consider the fact that you may be just progressing to losing more hair and taking those drugs may be slowing the process down (even if it does not seem to be). In other words it can be worse, but not because of Propecia and minoxidil. You may also consider seeing a doctor who can examine your hair under a hair densitometer to see its miniaturization pattern and quantitavely track the effects of what Propecia is doing.

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Dear Dr. Rassman,
I met with you last month at your office in L.A. and am planning to have a procedure this summer. You recommended that I take Propecia before and after my surgery to, 1) prevent “shock loss” and, 2) lower my risk of prostate cancer over the long term. As to the second issue, I’ve read the studies on the internet and they seem to say that while taking Propecia does reduce one’s chances of getting prostate cancer in the first instance, taking the drug may increase one’s risk of suffering from a more aggressive form of the cancer. How do you view these studies in terms of balancing the risks and benefits of taking Propecia over the long term?
Thanks

There is no doubt that Propecia will play an important role in preventing shock loss from a hair transplant surgery.

With regard to the cancer issue, the study that I am aware of shows what appears to be a more aggressive cancer with people taking Propecia, but that conclusion is based on the interpretation of the cancer by the way it looks under the microscope. The pathologists usually review the microscopic slides to determine how mean a cancer looks. The pathologist scores prostate cancers and classifies them based upon criteria establishing a Gleason Score, which tries to predict prostate cancer’s aggressive nature. The patients who had the high Gleason Score were followed since the diagnosis was made in 2001 and the cancers did NOT behave more aggressively than the cancers that were present in the placebo group studied at the same time. Anything can be agrued and this is just what is happening here. Two camps are squaring off so any absolute final word has yet to be written.

My conclusion (as well as many experts in the field of cancer) is that the Gleason Score is not reflective of the agressiveness of prostate cancer and that people who are taking Propecia are not at risk of developing an aggressive cancer more than the control group (made up of people not taking Propecia). For that reason, one of my sons and many members of my family are taking the drug.

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Hello, I have been on propecia for about a year, I stopped taking it for literally 1 month because I didnt have the money for it. I have noticed a decent amount of hair loss since coming off the drug. I am back on propecia now, but my question is can I grow back the hair that I lost within that month? and do I have to wait the intial 3 to 4 months again for propecia to start blocking DHT?

Thank you so much for your time

There is no way to tell other than to wait it out. Most men can regrow what they lose after stopping Propecia for a month. What I want the readers of this blog to note is that the hair on this man is being held on his head because of the Propecia. Had he not started the drug a year earlier, most likely he would be substantially balder than he is now. For those of you on the drug, stay on it or the loss that occurs from stopping it may not be reversible. Why gample?

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I had used minoxidil 2% and then 5% when it became available. Roughly 7 years in total. I just stopped using it in May ‘06.

The reason I stopped did not become apparent to me right away. I had two near fainting incidents. I went to the ER for both of them, saw my doctor, went to a cardiologist etc. One person, the ER Dr. suggested that it might be the minoxidil. Everyone else thought it was not a ‘new’ element in my life and looked for other causes.

Well, after I got a clean bill of health, I decided to stop the minoxidil and other symptons I had experienced, erectile dysfunction, fatigue, headaches, dizziness etc slowly are going away.

I figured I was getting older, 43, and that the above were part of aging. This has caused considerable distress in my life, including my marriage. My wife was concerned about my lack of performance and within 3 weeks, the ED is going away.

Please let your readers know that minoxidil is a potent drug. The side affects I experienced are considered rare, but they came on gradually and was hard to connect to the minoxidil.

I posted the above email as the sender wrote it, unedited. Minoxidil was originally a antihypertensive drug and those that used it noticed it grew hair. The hair came to the face and other body parts as well. Like any such medication, different people require different doses and the problem with minoxidil for the treatment of high blood pressure was that it was not as predictable as other drugs. Eventually the drug became out of favor for the treatment of blood pressure as better, more competitive drugs were on the market. What is important to note is that when a drug is put on the skin, it gets absorbed into the body to some degree in every person who uses it. The above story shows just that.