Taking Propecia and Procerin Together – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hello, I am 23 and I have a receding hairline. I started taking Propecia and Procerin together about 3 months ago. I feel like my hair in the front is falling out even faster! Is there a possibility that taking both in conjunction with one another might actually be speeding up the process?

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I do not know anything about Procerindirectly. However, I would suggest stopping the Procerin and focus upon Propecia first. Then with one of the substances gone, watch for what is changing. Accelerated hair loss does occur in genetic balding in phases. You may be going through one of those phases.

I Am Convinced A New Diet Will Regrow My Hair – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Trying to research (and in the process, bypass all the websites advertising products claiming to be the “answer” for hair loss) a solution for my thinning spot. There has to be a biological reason this happens and, thus, a biochemical solution. In other words, I’m seeking a connection between foods I eat and regrowing the hair – a natural way that involves my diet rather than expensive pills or surgery. Are you aware of any research in this regard? Where can I find information about their findings?
Thank you!

There are many causes for hair loss and it is well understood. To date, the only “biochemical solution” they have found is a drug called finasteride (Propecia) which is approved by the FDA for the “biochemical” treatment of male pattern hair loss or male pattern baldness (MPB). You are also correct in stating that certain diets (such as poor nutrition) can lead to hair loss. Unfortunately, the only medical solution to MPB is either taking finasteride or getting a hair transplant. Nothing is guaranteed, and you can find out much more about Propecia, here.

You are under the impression that you are what you eat, and there is clearly truth to this concept, but the complexity of the thousands of vitamins, nutrients, protein, sugars, and other things in our diet weighted against the things that are wrong with us is a daunting task. Just above, I discussed the drug finasteride, but did you know that this substance we call finasteride was actually found in the diet of some primitive people? It was naturally in the food staple of their daily diet. Because they ate so much of it, the explorers that first found the primitive tribe noticed that there were no young boys — just what appeared to be girls. On further examination of this situation, they found many, many hermaphrodites in the population that came from ingestion of this ‘natural food’ substance. This later turned out to become finasteride, a drug used for men with prostate problems and/or hair loss. So here are some important lessons for the natural minded herbalist readership:

  1. Not all natural foods are safe. Arsenic is natural, but it can kill.
  2. There are many good things in what we eat. A good healthy diet will make us healthy.
  3. If we eat anything that is not well understood, then we should take the time to learn and understand the issues of safety and effectiveness if we expect some outcome from what we eat.
  4. There are many substances that work to produce effects we might want. Some natural substances have steroids in them and they may make us feel better, healthier and look more muscular, but the question that must be asked is what is the real costs of such substances? Steroids are harmful in the long term and are not good things to take whether it be natural or in pill form.
  5. Even things like Vitamin A which is healthy in low doses, can cause hair loss in high doses.

If you are concerned about your hair loss or thinning, you should first be evaluated by a hair transplant doctor to map your scalp for miniaturization and the pattern of your hair loss.

Finally, if you find this elusive “cure” to hair loss, please come see me. I would love to be your business partner!

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Hair Loss InformationWhy Does The FDA Slow Down Development? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Drugs and processes that are developed to treat human conditions or diseases require that certain processes get followed to determine what I have stated over and over again — the safety and effectiveness of the drug or process. The research goes through many stages, and when the process reaches the clinical stages, the process gets very complex, expensive, and time consuming. So to elaborate upon what the FDA requires, I researched ‘what happens in a clinical trial’ to help my readers and patients understand what goes on, why it happens, and what is involved that takes so much time and money. I hope that the following piece (gleamed from an FDA publication — Inside Clinical Trials) sheds light on the subject. The question asks, “Why does the FDA slow down the process?” The answer below shows how the safety of the public is secured, defines the risks and benefits of the process/drug under study.

Every clinical trial is carefully designed to answer certain research questions. A trial plan called a protocol, maps out what study procedures will be done, by whom, and why. Products are often tested to see how they compare to standard treatments or to no treatment. The FDA often provides extensive technical assistance to researchers conducting clinical trials, helping them design better trials that can characterize effects of a new product more efficiently, while reducing risks to those participating in the trials.

The clinical trial team includes doctors and nurses, as well as other health care professionals. This team checks the health of the participant at the beginning of the trial and assesses whether that person is eligible to participate. Those found to be eligible-and who agree to participate-are given specific instructions, and then monitored and carefully assessed during the trial and after it is completed.

Done at hospitals and research centers around the country, clinical trials are conducted in phases. Phase 1 trials try to determine dosing, document how a drug is metabolized and excreted, and identify acute side effects. Usually, a small number of healthy volunteers (between 20 and 80) are used in Phase 1 trials.

Phase 2 trials include more participants (about 100-300) who have the disease or condition that the product potentially could treat. In Phase 2 trials, researchers seek to gather further safety data and preliminary evidence of the drug’s beneficial effects (efficacy), and they develop and refine research methods for future trials with this drug. If the Phase 2 trials indicate that the drug may be effective-and the risks are considered acceptable, given the observed efficacy and the severity of the disease-the drug moves to Phase 3.

In Phase 3 trials, the drug is studied in a larger number of people with the disease (approximately 1,000-3,000). This phase further tests the product’s effectiveness, monitors side effects and, in some cases, compares the product’s effects to a standard treatment, if one is already available. As more and more participants are tested over longer periods of time, the less common side effects are more likely to be revealed.

Sometimes, Phase 4 trials are conducted after a product is already approved and on the market to find out more about the treatment’s long-term risks, benefits, and optimal use, or to test the product in different populations of people, such as children.

Phase 2 and Phase 3 clinical trials generally involve a “control” standard. In many studies, one group of volunteers will be given an experimental or “test” drug or treatment, while the control group is given either a standard treatment for the illness or an inactive pill, liquid, or powder that has no treatment value (placebo). This control group provides a basis for comparison for assessing effects of the test treatment. In some studies, the control group will receive a placebo instead of an active drug or treatment. In other cases, it is considered unethical to use placebos, particularly if an effective treatment is available. Withholding treatment (even for a short time) would subject research participants to unreasonable risks.

The treatment each trial participant receives is often decided by a process called randomization. This process can be compared to a coin toss that is done by computer. During clinical trials, no one likely knows which therapy is better, and randomization assures that treatment selection will be free of any preference a physician may have. Randomization increases the likelihood that the groups of people receiving the test drug or control are comparable at the start of the trial, enabling comparisons in health status between groups of patients who participated in the trial.

In conjunction with randomization, a feature known as blinding helps ensure that bias doesn’t distort the conduct of a trial or the interpretation of its results. Single-blinding means the participant does not know whether he or she is receiving the experimental drug, an established treatment for that disease, or a placebo. In a single-blinded trial, the research team does know what the participant is receiving.

A double-blinded trial means that neither the participant nor the research team knows during the trial which participants receive the experimental drug. The patient will usually find out what he or she received at a pre-specified time in the trial.

Hair Loss InformationI’ll Be Bald By 25 – How Can All I Get All My Hair Back? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hello Doc,
I have a very vague question for you. Im a 20 year old male who is thinning very fast and probably will be completely bald by about 25 (Class 6). What would you have me to get all my hair back to the way it was in high school in the best method possible.
I understand i can’t get it back completely, but what would be the best possible recommendation from your standpoint. I have been on propecia a bit over a year now and I feel it has done nothing for me, and Im looking to buy minoxidil to help me, but I’m also considering Dutasteride. What do you say?

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I want to have the body I had when I was 40, but at 60 I can’t get there. Reality is that everyone loses youth and I accept that for myself. You need to stop gambling and start being smart about your hair loss. Once your hair is mapped out for miniaturization, you can be checked for the change of miniaturization over time. If the Propecia does not work, then transplants with a Master Plan is the right way to go, but you need a good doctor first and foremost. Following the advice in this blog site will at least help you to become a smart buyer.

Can I Take Less Propecia And Still Maintain Results? – Balding Blog

I am 45 years old and have been using propecia for about eight years with good results. A balding spot on the top of my head has completely filled in. I still have a receding hairline at the temples, but this also came back a little. About a year ago, I started using propecia amd monoxidil together. I’m happy to say I started to get quite noticable new hair regrowth at the temples.

My question is this: After taking propecia for so many years, I haven’t seen any additional regrowth. At this point, I’m not hoping to grow any new hair as much as I am trying just to maintain my results. With the cost of propecia being so expensive, can I take a smaller dose, say a half a tablet a day, and still maintain my results?

Horse RaceIt sounds like you are winning the horse race.

The ramifications of a change in losing hair may be ominous. I believe that 1/2 mg is 80% as effective as 1mg. However, since I am not sure where you will be in this statistic, so that opens the possibility that taking only 1/2 mg will cause you to drop your hair population. Some people take a 5mg Proscar tablet and cut it in quarters. That substantially reduces the cost, so you might try that approach if the financial load is too great for Propecia.




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Are My Breasts Enlarging from Finasteride? – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Hi Dr Rassman,
Thanks for your great site. I’m on finasteride (2 months now) and I’m a little worried about gyno. Is it possible that my breasts are enlarging without any pain or lumps? What form does gyno take as a side effect of finasteride?

Many thanks

5mg finasteride (Proscar) has been reported by the drug manufacturer to cause breast enlargement for 1 in 200 men who have been taking the medication for one year. Propecia is only 1mg finasteride (1/5th the dose of Proscar). It may cause breast enlargement (gynecomastia). If you are concerned about the side effect of finasteride that you are taking, you should go back to the doctor who prescribed the medication for a follow up check. You may be right on and this drug may not be for you. If you want, try to cut the dose in half (not a pill every other day) and see if the problem goes away in a month or so.

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Hair Loss InformationMedications or Transplants? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dear Doctor Rassman,
Since the medications Propecia and Rogaine will eventually lose their efficacy, would it be advisable not to take them and address hair transplantation instead?

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I believe that we have no way to determine if and when the medications that are working will lose their effectiveness. Sometimes it will last a very long time and if the medications are not producing problems for you, then it would be generally my preference to stay on the medications and exploit them until they become less effective. Supplementing the benefits of the medications with hair transplants may be appropriate in some situations.

There is also the issue of how far the hair loss will progress if you stop the medication and start losing hair very quickly. If that progression gets very advanced, then transplants may not be something that will solve the problem either. I discuss the supply/demand balance between your donor source and the advancing balding pattern. When the pattern exceeds your donor supply’s ability to give up the hair, you will not look normal unless you and your doctor had a Master Plan devised when the process started.

At Age 19, Do I Need to Take Propecia Before a Transplant? – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

hello im 19 from london, i want a hair transplant, but dont want telogen shock, i would like to have a hair transplant as soon as possible, but do i need to be taking a drug eg propecia to avoid it long before my operation or can i start just before, also would it be worth having the operation w/out drugs and hopeing telogen shock did not occur

At 19, I would be hesitant to have a hair transplant. You need to have your hair loss measured and should absolutely be on Propecia for a trial of at least a year. Have measurements for miniaturization taken prior to starting Propecia so that they could be compared after a year on the drug, and a good doctor can then determine if you have the hair loss under control. The last thing you should be considering at this time is a hair transplant. As I say all the time, Let the Buyer Beware. No one will protect you other than you. Look at my website and become familiar with what we do and the field of hair transplantation in general.

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No Results from Propecia After 6 Months – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

i have been taking propecia for more than 6 months now and i didnt see any noticable results. they continue to fall. also the last month i begin taking minoxodil 2% in parallel with propecia. Moreover i drink some herbs which i was informed that they are dht blockers. why i do not see results yet? do i have to wait longer?

In some cases, people that take Propecia may have to wait up to a year to see the results, but my concern is over what results you are trying to find. That is why I always want to map out the scalp for miniaturization, so that what is happening can have numbers (metrics) put to it. If the miniaturization goes down, then the drug is working to reverse the process. If the miniaturization stays the same, then the drug is holding the loss off and things may not be getting worse. If the miniaturization goes up, then the drug is not holding your hair for you and you are losing more hair even though you are taking the best drug out there. In most people, Propecia will either stop or slow down the hair loss or improve hair growth and the diameter of each hair (miniaturized hairs have smaller diameters). According to Merck, Propecia is effective in over 90% of the population of young men with hair loss, but effective in what is the question. You may not actually see improved hair fullness, but that does not mean the medication is not working. In your case, Propecia may slow down or stop further hair loss, but not regrow hair in the bald areas. If you were to stop taking it, you may experience accelerated hair loss and lose all of the hair that had been saved by Propecia.