Hair Loss InformationDutasteride vs Propecia, Round 2 – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Another Propecia question, this time from Thomas…

I have been on propecia now 9 months and have receded more and gotten thinner on top. Propecia either accelerated my mpb or did nothing for it. I am worse off now then when i started. I never used to have hair in the shower, on my hands, or in the sink..Ever since the 3rd month on propecia, it has not stopped. My head even itches now sometimes when it NEVER used to before. My question is can Dutasteride help me or because i had no response to Propecia, is it a waste of time?

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I do not know your age or family history, when you started balding, or what pattern you are heading to. This information is critical. Already you know that Propecia has not helped you (slowed or stopped the hair loss) so this is already atypical. It is possible that you have other than a genetic cause for hair loss. Thyroid disease and some other medical conditions can produce hair loss that will not respond to Propecia.

With regard to Dutasteride, there is no doubt in my mind that it is a better DHT blocker than Propecia, but it has not been proven to be by appropriately controlled studies. A few doctors who I respect have used it for genetic hair loss and they tell me there is significant benefit in some patients that do not respond to Propecia.

First and foremost, you need to have a competent doctor make the assessment. If it proves to be genetic hair loss, then using a non-FDA approved medication (called off label use) has implications for both you and your doctor. If you are in the California area, I would be happy to see you personally and make that assessment.

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I am almost 30 years old and just started propecia. My general practitioner advised against taking it due to the risk of prostate cancer. I’ve tried to research this and have not really found any evidence to support this other than the increased risk at the 5mg level.

I’ve been told by a few doctors that I should take propecia and not necessarily have a hair transplant at this time given that my hair is only beginning to thin; and that propecia should help.

Additionally, I’ve heard recently that I should not be surprised if “hair cloning” becomes available in the next few years. Would appreciate any comments.

Best Regards

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Propecia, according to a recent article in the New England Journal of Medicine, reduces the risk of Prostate cancer by 25% in the men who were studied. I personally believe that it is a good medicine for this. There is some general argument on those who may develop cancer while on the drug, that the drug may have made the tumors look more aggressive. I think that the evidence amongst most knowledgeable people points to safety and Propecia is not a carcinogen. Your doctor is misinformed.

Hair cloning, I believe, will not be addressed in the next decade.

CNN released the following news in 2003: In the study, which was funded by the National Cancer Institute and published in the online version of the New England Journal of Medicine, researchers at 221 sites nationwide followed nearly 19,000 men older than 55 for seven years. About half of them were assigned at random to take either finasteride, a drug that lowers male hormone levels, or a placebo. By the end of the trial, those taking the drug reduced their risk of prostate cancer by nearly 25 percent over those on placebos.

Also, give the following reference to your doctor: New England Journal of Medicine Volume 349:2387-2398, December 18, 2003, Number 25, The Long-Term Effect of Doxazosin, Finasteride, and Combination Therapy on the Clinical Progression of Benign Prostatic Hyperplasia, John D. McConnell, M.D.,et. al.

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Dr. Rassman,
What are your thoughts on Dutasteride (Avodart) in comparison to Propecia. I have been using Dutasteride for hair loss for about three months and seem to notice a positive response. i.e. there is very little new hair loss and there seems to be new growth on the vertex.

I just wanted your opinion as it relates to safety and efficacy of Dutasteride vs. Propecia.

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Dutasteride has great promise as a drug, but I have several problems with it as follows:

  1. Dutasteride is not FDA approved for safety or efficacy at this time. That leaves me a bit uncomfortable at recommending the drug.
  2. Propecia has a half life of 5 hours. That means that in five hours, half of the medication is gone from the blood stream and five hours more, 75% is gone, and five hours more 87.5% is gone and so on…. Dutasteride has a half life of 3-8 months depending upon who you believe. That means that once you take one pill, it hangs around for a long time. Any side effect therefore, does not go away fast like with Propecia.
  3. Dutasteride has been reported better or more effective than Propecia, but these are unofficial reports and at this time there is not absolute evidence that is scientific which will hold water on the comparison.
  4. Doctors who prescribe Dutasteride may not be protected by State Laws that govern use of non-approved medications.
  5. Most important of all, if people get a good response to Propecia, why switch?

Hair Loss InformationIs Shock Loss Permanent? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

In the interest of keeping things as private as possible, I have removed the Doctor’s name from this email I received…

Hi Dr. Rassman,
I read your recent comment about young guys under 30 years old who get an HT and are not on Propecia. I fit into that profile. I recently had a HT with [another doctor] and its 4 months post -op now. had a lot of shockloss of original hair post op and am really concerned now that I read your comment online [see: Hair Loss After Transplants]. Since I had sexual side effects when on Propecia, I had to quit it and cannot tolerate being on it.

I received a total of 3366 grafts in total. Am attaching Before Hair transplant pictures with this email and 6 weeks post op pictures. According to [my hair transplant doctor], he feels that the shockloss will mostly come back and eventually I will have good results. He recently asked me to take Saw Palmetto and see if I can tolerate being on it. Started taking 320 mg of Saw Palmetto twice a day recently.

Please advice what I can expect from the procedure. Do you think that I will permenantly lose a lot of original hair that has fallen due to shockloss for good? Or will it mostly come back?

I’m seeing growth in the 4th month but not sure if the shockloss hair is coming back or it is the new grafts that are growing in. To highlight my case, I mostly had diffuse thinning in frontal 1/4 of my scalp. The hair that was there was strong and had a thick shaft, there might be other miniaturized hairs, but looking at my pre-op pictures you will get an idea of the state of the existing hair follicle.

Thanks a lot for your time and effort.

My current regimen includes : minoxidil 5%, topical Spironolactone 5% cream from Lee’s, 3000 Mg of MSM, 2% Nizoral trice a week, Recently added : betnovate topical lotion, 320 mg Saw palmetto twice a day, Folligen lotion.

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I have had an opportunity to review your questions and photographs. For our general audience who are reading this, I will summarize the salient points.

You appeared to have a large surgical session with dense packing based upon the number of grafts reported by you. The frontal area appears to have been shaved for the procedure and the growth of the hair does not reflect the normal growth that one would expect in 3 months. This is a case of hair loss transplant shock in a young man, just as my previous responsive email reported to another young man. There is a possibility that the hair that you lost may come back. Most likely though, it will not return. Other medications have not been shown to be effective (like Propecia). In people like you, I generally try to cover the short term transplant period with half of the Propecia dose, even if it causes some drop in sexual performance just to protect the hair.

The good news however is that the new grafts that you had done should (hopefully) more than offset any loss you may have. You will know reasonably well at about the 7-8th month by comparing the two sides. The left side that seemed to suffer more of the reactive hair loss needs to be compared to the right side. If the hair loss was reversed, the densities of the two sides will be the same. Please drop me a line or send me photographs at the 7-8th month and I would be happy to give you further insights. Good luck.

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I have heard that people who have transplants get more loss because transplants produces hair loss of normal hair. Is this true?

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First let’s answer this question in the typical young man, for the answer differs slightly than the older men. If a man (under the age of 30) has a transplant and does not take the drug Propecia, the normal course of hair loss that he could expect without the transplant could occur in a shorter period of time (e.g. two years of hair loss in as short as 6 months of time). To understand this lets focus on the causes of hair loss for a brief moment. The four causes are (1) hormones, (2) genes, (3) time and (4) stress. The stress of a surgery in a genetically impaired patient who is undergoing active hair loss (most young men under 30) are being attacked by hormones actively. In guys over the age of 30 when time has already taken its toll and the hair that was going to die, did die, the sensitivity to hair loss is less. In the days before the drug Propecia was released, these men under 30 lost enough hair from a transplant that they had to play ‘catch up’ (which meant that some hair was lost earlier than they expected and this required more transplants to treat). The drug Propecia has almost completely stopped this from happening and we use it on most men to prevent it from happening today.

In men who are older, the risks of reactive hair loss go down, as the hormone attack on the susceptible hair follicles have already done their damage. I have seen far less reactive hair loss on men over 30 and the older the man gets, the less risk there is to reactive hair loss.

In women, the problem differs. Some women, whose hair is easily stressed, could experience a temporary hair loss from a transplant (a minority) but in my many years in the field, I do not recall any female that had permanent hair loss from a transplant.

Previous hair transplanted grafts almost never suffer from reactive hair loss (far less than 1% of transplanted patients).