Minoxidil Makes Me Rub My Scalp While I Sleep – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hello Dr. Rassman,

First of all, thank you for this website. It actually helped me stopping wasting money on some useless products.

I have been on minoxidil (Kirkland) and propecia since Aug. 2011. So far there is no significant improvement but no visible further loss either. So I think I should stay on them for another 8 months to see the results.

However, for minoxidil, my head always gets a little itchy after I apply it. In day hours I don’t feel much so it was all right, but recently I was told that I rub my head a lot while in sleep. I am wondering if I should stop using minoxidil at night since rubbing might accelerate the hair loss. Or maybe I can find something like a hat to wear at night. I would like to hear your suggestion on this.

Thanks

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Traction alopecia can occur from rubbing your scalp on a regular and rough basis. Some people do report irritation (or sensitivity) when using topical minoxidil. Some try different types, such as the foam version (Rogaine) and maybe you’ll see some improvement.

It may seem silly, but maybe you could wear mittens while you sleep. I’ve suggested that to my patients who have similar problems.

I’ve Gained Weight After Using Rogaine Foam for 2 Weeks – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

i have been using rogaine 5% foam for 2 wks now a as directed by my dr. dermatologist, i have gained 5-6 lbs over these past 2 wks and feel swollen in the face. what do i do and can this be due to the use of rogaine?

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Weight gain has been reported with the use of Rogaine, but the cause is not known or even proven. “Unexplained weight gain” is listed as a known side effect (see here). Still, 5 to 6 pounds seems quite drastic in a short time span. Swelling of the face can be a sign of an allergic reaction.

As you are under the care of a dermatologist, I would suggest that you seek his advice on the weight gain issue.

Hair Loss InformationDoes Propecia Only Save Hair for 3 Years? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I’m very seriously considering starting a course of propecia/proscar. But before I began I wanted to ask two questions.

1. It has been said that if you start propecia early the better chance you have of slowing down/halting hair loss, but that doesn’t tally with the propecia chart from studies which show that it generally peters out after 3 years. so surely you’d only save your hair for 3 years and then it would quickly regress, not making much difference how early you start because you only have 3 years of good hair.

2. I was wondering if you could recommend a good dermatologist/hair doctor in London, who I could have a consulation with before I begin taking proscar, do you know any who do miniturisation tests or some kind of form of monitoring on hair loss? There are a lot of snake oil merchants in London that are willfully telling you that you must get on medication and I just want to talk to who is honest and experienced.

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I have many patients that have reversed their crown loss and held the reversal over 10 years. Everyone is different, but the official studies show that the expected maintenance should be about 5 years on average. That means that some men get better than 5 years and some worse results while on the drug. It depends upon how aggressive your genes are.

As to your second question about London-based doctors, Dr. Bessam Farjo is a contributor to this site. He and his wife are terrific doctors and worthy of a trip to their offices (in London and Manchester). They may be able to give you a referral if you call their office.

Hair Loss InformationTaking Propecia and Having a Child – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi dear Dr Rassman

I am a 43 years old man which have taken Propecia (1 mg) for 7 months. I know taking the said pill for women is forbidden and they should not even touch it. So, if a man who is taking Propecia and want to bring a baby, he should stop using the pill before intercourse with his wife? I mean the finasteride dose not transfer through the sperm.

If the answer is yes, how long before intercourse the man should stop using the Propecia?

Your soonest reply will be appreciated. Thank you

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After extensive studies in this very issue, we know that the drug is not transmitted to the woman through sexual intercourse. We have not seen the problems of fetus sexual differentiation in women who were fertilized by men taking this drug at the 1mg dose for hair loss. It is generally considered safe to have a successful pregnancy while a man is taking finasteride (Propecia).

Very Low Dose of Finasteride (Less than 0.25mg) – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dear Dr Rassman,

Have you had any patients who have taken very low doses of finasteride (i.e. less than 0.25mg)?

I am not keen to take propecia because I’m concerned of the effects to my internal body chemistry but would also love to keep my hair for longer. I have had issues with my sex drive previously and do not want to mess with my hormone balance too much as a man still in my 20’s. Another reason being that I’m an athlete and want to be at my peak physically. I’ve read a lot about how finasteride affects the hormones, particularly the obvious reduction in DHT but also the decrease in free (not total) testosterone and the rise in estrogen.

Then I read this forum post: Hairlosstalk.com

It seems that taking a dose as low as 0.05mg is enough to lower scalp DHT considerably while keeping 20% more DHT in the blood. Like the original poster in the forum thread who is considering crushing a pill and measuring smaller doses – this prospect is more appealing to me. If I could just lower my blood DHT by 40-50% instead of 70% then surely my hair would still get some benefit and I would be able to keep my hormones at a more normal level. I have ruled out taking 1mg but am really curious about taking 0.05mg if only I could just measure it accurately each time (I wouldn’t want to take fluctuating dosages each day).

It makes me wonder why propecia isn’t available at a much smaller dose (0.05mg or 0.1mg)

Could you comment please? I’d very much appreciate it. Thanks for such an informative blog.

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Propecia (finasteride) at 1mg was determined to be the ideal dose for treating hair loss. Lower doses do work, but how low? I’ve said that 0.5mg produces 80% of the benefit, and 0.25mg probably give 50% of the benefit. I don’t have a clue about lower dosages.

But by dosing the 1mg level, it is the most effective treatment level to use… so why dose lower unless there are significant side effects?

Hair Loss InformationCan I Take Finasteride Temporarily to Protect from Shock Loss? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hypothetically can Finasteride for shock loss be discontinued after a period of time has elapsed after the Hair Transplant operation and the risk of shock loss has receded?

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Yes, you can take finasteride temporarily to just protect against shock hair loss. I generally tell patients to take it for 8 or so months to bridge the gap between the transplant procedure and growth from the new grafts.

Hair Loss InformationWould 0.25mg Finasteride Be More Effective than Saw Palmetto? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi Doc,

I’m a 26 year old male with a fairly aggresive NW4 developing, and need to do something to stabilize this before going for a HT next year.

I’ve grown pretty scared of finasteride side effects through the experience of a good friend who unfortunately suffered some of the psychological sides we’ve all been reading about online.

Question is, would a 1/4 dose (0.25mg) finasteride still be more effective for someone in my position than the full (320mg) recommended dose of saw palmetto? I’ve tried the latter before with no side effects, but didn’t stay on it long enough to evaluate the results.

Thanks doc and keep up the excellent work!

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Propecia is finasteride in 1mg strength that you take daily for genetic male pattern (androgenic) hair loss. It’s been indicated that 0.5 mg finasteride daily is about 70 to 80% as effective as the full 1mg dose. I suppose you can infer how a 0.25mg dose may help. But in general if you are going to take a drug, you should take it as directed and speak with your doctor about all these issues. With saw palmetto, you really do not know the dose of the effective ingredients as they vary per manufacturer. Add to that the knowledge that saw palmetto has never been proven to work on hair reliably with a good scientific study.

My final point is that if you are going to read the issues of Propecia on the Internet and scare yourself with unsubstantiated reports without even seeing a doctor, the chances are you will likely have a side effect from the sheer psychological impact.

Hair Loss InformationBilateral Varicocele and Propecia – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Yes, another Propecia question for you. Sorry :) I am 37 and have a bi-lateral varocele, grade 2 on the left and grade 1 on the right. If I started on propecia, could its side effects be more potent or affect my condition? From what I remember, the Merck studies did not get into the issue of results or drawbacks of people with Varocle.

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This is a question you must ask the doctor who is following your problem. There is no obvious answer, other than you cannot just correlate any medical issue with a side effect. I am not a urologist nor do I treat varicoceles, so I am probably not the one to answer the question.

Hair Loss InformationCaution for Balding Sufferers – Be Careful What You Wish For – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

The following post is by UK-based physician Dr. Bessam Farjo:


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Dr Bessam Farjo, United Kingdom
Dr Bessam Farjo
United Kingdom

While I have discussed my reservations in previous blogs with regards to younger men undergoing hair transplant surgery, I felt that the most effective way to raise my concerns is by offering examples of cases I’ve dealt with in the past.

I’ve been liaising with a patient for several years who first came to me at the age of 19. After a couple of consultations at our practice, we advised him that he should try a course of Finasteride or Propecia before surgery. The patient went away and, after a couple of years, returned to the practice having undergone extensive scalp reduction surgery in Europe.

Scalp reduction surgery is a surgical hair restoration procedure that surgically removes bald scalp and stretches hair-bearing scalp upward and across to replace bald scalp that has been removed. While this is considered an effective treatment for sufferers of hair loss especially in the past, it was not the appropriate surgery option for this patient at the time.

He was 21 when he came back to our practice and had since suffered further hair loss. Once again, we advised he was still too young to undergo more surgery as the full extent of his hair loss was still unknown at such a young age. Against our advice, the patient had a further two hair transplant procedures at another clinic which he was unhappy about. He is now 24 and we’re still in regular contact as his hair loss has severely affected his confidence and self-esteem.

While we’re working with him to try and rectify his situation, it’s imperative that potential patients are educated correctly on the future consequences that may result from premature surgery as well as the, potentially irreversible, damage that can be done.


The second case is a patient who came to the Farjo Medical Centre less than a year ago. At age 25, he was again advised that perhaps he should first consider medication before undergoing surgery. It turns out that he wasn’t happy with our advice and we have since received angry correspondence from the gentleman who informed us that he went ahead with surgery in another country. Interestingly, he says he is very pleased with the result after only 3 months.

While I’m sure his surgery went well, my concerns lie with what the future holds for him and his hairline. At 25 it’s still too early to say how far his hair loss will go, he may need subsequent operations and treatment which, if achievable, will come at a significant cost. There may also be issues with his donor area and whether or not he has enough hair to undergo further procedures in the future.

Taking these two cases into consideration, I do hope those younger people reading this blog see the downfalls in rushing into undergoing surgery at such an early stage. If, like the first patient, you feel that your hair loss is severely affecting your self-esteem, there is comfort in controlling further hair loss first and there are people out there who can help. Visit your local ethical hair loss centre, your GP or family doctor or go online for support forums such as the Hair Transplant Network, Bald Truth, Hairloss Experiences and others.

I really can’t stress enough how important it is for the younger generation who are losing their hair to think about the future and how surgery may affect them in the years to come.

Learn more about the author of this article, Dr. Bessam Farjo, on his BaldingBlog profile or at his website.

Hair Loss InformationI’m In My 40s – Am I Too Old for Finasteride to Help My Recent Hair Loss? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi Doctor, I am 47 yrs old and my hair started thinning a bit at the crown 2 or 3 years back. I started using minoxidil a couple of years back and it seems to have slowed things down a bit.

I was thinking of using finasteride as well but am wondering am i too old for fin? Also i am not that hairy, with very little chest, arms, legs and general body hair so would that mean that my dht levels are low anyway? My father’s hair started to thin in his 40s and he is now in his 70s and still has most of his hair, just thin around the crown with no bald spot. Thanks

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Finasteride works best on people with recent hair loss, especially in the top and crown. You are not too old and I would consider this as an addition to the minoxidil you are presently using. Talk to your doctor.