Hair Loss InformationDoes Botox Prevent or Reverse Hair Loss? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Any news on the use of Botox in treating hair loss? I read something a couple years ago about it and saw it advertised recently. Thanks

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We addressed a press release we found back in 2009 that Botox was being used to reverse hair loss. Since then, there’s been a pilot study of 50 men, but nothing I can find beyond that.

The rationale for using Botox as a hair loss treatment is that when the muscles are blocked, the blood flow in the scalp increases and bathes the damaged or thinning hair follicles. If this catches on, there could be a rush to get Botox in the scalp by some of the many balding men and women. I do not endorse this treatment at this time without more convincing evidence that there is value in the use of Botox for this purpose.

Hair Loss InformationPudendal Neuropathy and Propecia – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I read on one post that Propecia caused someone to have pudendal neuropathy which caused both sensory and motor dysfunction in the genital tissues. Is this a Post-Finasteride-Syndrome? Is pudendal neuropathy a side effect?

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The term “neuropathy” means damage to a nerve… so “pudendal neuropathy” is damage to the pudendal nerve. I cannot imagine how Propecia can cause damage to this specific nerve. Damage to the nerve is usually from mechanical injury (bike riding, falling on your buttocks, etc) or inflammatory issues (infection) or chronic medical conditions that damage your nerve, such as diabetes or multiple sclerosis. Propecia is a drug that that partially blocks the conversion of testosterone to DHT. If someone is going to claim that there is some special DHT relationship to a pudendal nerve, we might as well be blaming Propecia for our economy or the color of the sky.

Stating that a drug (Propecia) caused a neuropathy to the pudendal nerve is questionable, because there is no difference in the pudendal nerve to a nerve that innervates your thumb. The pudendal nerve is one of many nerves in your pelvic area (for both men and women) and one segment of it innervates your penis or clitoris. I believe many readers may have heard of sciatica when doctors refer to certain back pain caused by the sciatic nerve. The pudendal nerve is a distal branch of a sciatic nerve. Patients with back problems or pelvic area problems/trauma/tumor/etc can have pudendal nerve issues. Pudendal nerve damage can cause erection problems, but it will also cause perineal numbness or pain (see here).

If there is an erection issue, the most simple test is a nocturnal penile tumescence (NPT) test. Imagine a roll of stamps wrapped around a flaccid penis and taped. If you get an erection, the stamps will stretch and break at the perforations. I assume there are better devices out there and better tests, but this test can sometimes be a good starting point to help delineate if erectile issues are psychological or physical. Normally, men will have involuntary erections during sleep (aka “morning wood”). It would be interesting to see if the 70 or so men that reported permanent erection problems can achieve nocturnal (involuntary) erections and if they ever underwent these tests, But from my reading I believe the erection issues were self-reported and no subjective testing was performed.

In matters of medical health, the Internet is not a place to self diagnose medical conditions or become armchair physicians. But alas, it is what many readers will continue to do and the urban legends will propagate.

Mixing Rogaine Foam and Brylcreem? – Balding Blog

I dislike using both versions of Rogaine foam and solution. As I could always feel some drops on my eyebrows, eyelash and gradual hair growth on my forehead, nose, ears and neck. I thought about mixing a bottle of %5 Rogaine Foam with a hair growth cream or brylcream even. Could you suggest a ratio of Minoxidil to cream to create such homemade mixture. Would that minimize the benefits of Minoxidil?

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You’re saying that even the Rogaine Foam is too messy to apply, leaving you with drips and drops on parts of your head that you’re not intending to apply it to? I haven’t heard that complaint before with the foam, though it was more common with the liquid. Perhaps you’re not rubbing it into the scalp areas enough, or you could use a wet rag to wipe down your forehead, nose, ears, etc after applying it.

I don’t have experience with homemade mixtures of any medication, so I cannot and would not recommend this practice.




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Can Propecia Cause Blood Clots? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I am hearing Propecia is now associated with DVT or thrombophlebitis. This is a life threatening thing. I can understand erection problems can be a major downer, but a blood clot can kill me!

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For those not familiar with the term, “thrombophlebitis”, it reflects inflamation of a vein causing or related to blood clots in the inflamed vein. Clots that form, for example, in the leg, can be dislodged and then head to the heart and lungs producing a life threatening condition.

Propecia is a drug that blocks (though not completely) the conversion of the testosterone hormone to another hormone called dihydrotestosterone (DHT), meaning the drug reduces the action of DHT on various target organs in your body. If someone is going to claim that there is some special DHT relationship to a blood clot in your leg, I think we are going a bit overboard.

From a physiologic perspective, children (pre-puberty) have low DHT and men with hypogonadism or castration have low DHT and low testosterone levels. These people do not usually get blood clots. However, men that are treated with testosterone (which will also increase their DHT) show that there are a few case reports of blood clots. My point is that if anything, Propecia should have the opposite effect.

I want to make clear that these are my opinions based on my medical knowledge and years of practice, but I am not your doctor and you should not take this as a medical consult. Please speak with your doctor about your concerns. The Internet is a horrible way to self treat and you will be lost in a sea of information that is impossible to validate.

I Found a Lump Under My Nipple After Taking Propecia – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I was on Propecia for a year after about 9 months I got a lump under my left nipple. I also had to work really hard to get an erection. I stopped taking the drug and all sides went back to normal and I have just become a father so no damage done. I was taking 1 pill per day I would like to start taking the drug again as I was having good results. is it possible for me to lower the dosage and will this reduce the sides. I look forward to hearing from you thank you and keep up the good work

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If you have or had breast lumps, this can be a serious issue and you need to have a physical exam. Your doctor needs to be aware of it. If you have erectile dysfunction you need to at least see a doctor to make sure there are no other medical issues such as high blood pressure, diabetes, or other medical conditions that may contribute to the issue. I realize this site is for discussing hair loss issues and Propecia is a medication that may cause the side effects you are describing, but nevertheless you still need to see your doctor about these issues.

I am glad to hear that your side effects all went away. If you want to restart Propecia, talk to your doctor regarding a possible dosage change that may diminish or ameliorate the side effects. Remember that 1/2 of a Propecia (0.5mg finasteride) is considered 70 to 80% as effective as the full 1mg dose in treating genetic MPB.

Hair Loss InformationI’ve Had No Hair Loss Over the Past Year and a Half – Is Now the Time for a Transplant? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Doctors,

I have been taking proscar, religiously, cutting it up into quarters for the past 5 years. I have had moderate success in keeping what I have, but not any new hair growth. My temples have still receded and a little bit of the front part of my hairline has receded. However, in the past year and a half there hasn’t been any hair loss whatsoever. I am 29 years old, if I haven’t seen any hair loss in the amount of time I mentioned does that mean I have reached my final hair loss pattern and I will no longer experience hair loss, and I can go for a transplant procedure?

The last thing I want to do, go for a procedure and then all my native hair falls out and I am left with only transplanted hair. That is why I am sometimes confused as to how long one should wait to get a transplant and how would one know what the “final” pattern is at such a young age like mine.

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The real question is: Is this your final hair loss pattern? You can guess at this, but at 29 years old, that might be difficult. Well-delineated patterns often show the final pattern. That means if you are (for example) a Norwood class 3 pattern, the area where the hair is should not have any miniaturization when looked at under a video microscope, and the hair behind it should not have bulk reductions as measured by a HairCheck instrument.

If you had clean borders and no loss of hair bulk behind your existing pattern then you could assume (not 100%) that for the moment, the hair loss should have stopped. The problem is that many people who see it stop may find that it picks up again years later. With the combination of what I discussed here with the continuation of the finasteride treatment, you may be one of the lucky few. If you are in Southern California, I would be happy to do these tests for you in my Los Angeles office.

Could Griseofulvin Cause Hair Loss? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I am interested in your opinions in regard to Griseofulvin. I know it is used to treat fungal infections of the skin/hair/scalp, but have you heard of or encountered any cases where this drug actually causes hair loss?

I have read several reports of drugs like Lamisil and Diflucan causing hair loss, so would Griseofulvin be any different? Also, is this really the best option to treat a “black-dot” ringworm case of tinea capitis?

Thank you.

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I haven’t encountered any cases where griseofulvin caused hair loss, but it is a treatment for tinea capitis (also known as ringworm)… and that does cause hair loss if not treated.

Please see your doctor to treat your medical issues.

How Data is Collected and Interpreted in Clinical Trials – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Note: This post comes from one of our favorite readers (he has requested to remain anonymous), who has contributed posts in the past about FDA issues. He provides some insight into clinical trials, and sent this in to answer some of the questions/concerns posted in our comments section about Propecia data.

Finasteride side effects are a hot issue on various forums and on our own site, so hopefully this can clear up some of the hysteria that perpetuates online:

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    A recent post impressed me by referring to Propecia data from a FDA hearing (more updated and accurate information is in the U.S. Product Label) but may have been confused by how data is collected and interpreted in clinical trials. I am a veteran of overseeing clinical trials resulting in drug approvals.

    1. The poster notes that the “rate of sexual side effects is 3.8 percent with finasteride versus 2.1 percent with placebo.” Actually, following the Advisory Committee hearing and in further review of the data, the US Product Label shows that in Year 1, decreased libido was 1.8% for the 945 men receiving finasteride and 1.3% for the 934 men receiving placebo (placebo-adjusted rate of 0.5% or 1 in 200 cases). Similarly, erectile dysfunction was reported in 1.3% of men receiving finasteride and 0.7% of those receiving placebo (placebo-adjusted rate of 0.5% or 1 in 200 cases). Approximately 1.2% of men receiving finasteride and 0.9% of men receiving placebo discontinue the study drug due to sexual side effects. No cases of irreversibility of sexual dysfunction were reported.

    2. The poster asks (given that the reporting was “self-reporting”) whether the results “are scientific”. This latter sentence makes me wonder if the poster wonders if clinical trial data is collected similar to the uncontrolled self-selected questionnaire surveys often cited in other situations. It is not. Unlike self-selected questionnaires, where one does not know the denominator (how many patients are receiving the drug, only those reporting a complaint) or period of observation, a clinical trial is different. In a clinical trial, the physician investigator asks every participating patient at regularly scheduled visits through the entire study (and predetermined) follow-up whether they are having or have had any new or worsened effect in any organ system. By definition, this reporting has to come from the patient. But, it is as scientific as one can get (it is solicited rather than self-selected). In addition, any report of a side effect is attributed to the drug (active vs. placebo) regardless of the causality. That is, if a person gets hit by a car and sustains trauma and is on an active drug, trauma is tabulated under the drug (although an investigator may causally relate it to something else). This conservative approach is taken to capture any possible relationship (i.e., maybe the drug makes someone drowsy and more prone to accidents).

    3. The (implied) gist of the poster’s real concern is whether any weakness of reporting in clinical trials relates to any weakness of reporting possible persistent side effects. It doesn’t, as patients are followed for variable periods (in all clinical trials) after discontinuation of the study drug, including completion of the trial. When an adverse event occurs, investigators are required to follow the patient longer and in most cases until adverse event resolution.

    Instead, the limitation of issues of reversibility vs nonreversibility of any reported side effect have to do with the limitation of study patient numbers and durations. If an event is very rare, it will not occur when several thousand men are assessed but may occur when tens or hundreds of thousands of men are assessed in the postmarketing setting. The best example of this is with the PDE5 inhibitors (sildenafil, tadalafil) for erectile dysfunction. While the causal association between devastating visual events (termed NAION) and these drugs are unclear (because of their rarity), the occurrence of these events in 100-200 of the over 80 million men who take these compounds post-marketing (with zero occurrences reported in the clinical trials) is now in the Product Label as a possible consequence and underscores my point. rare events that may be related to a drug do not show up in clinical trials because of issues with ‘self-reporting”, but due to a smaller patient number and exposure that can occur in the ‘real-world setting” once a drug is approved.

    4. I have not read the comment the poster attributes to the Editor-in-Chief of the Journal of Sexual Medicine. As someone who is asked to review journal articles for submission, my approach would have been to encourage scientists and patients to publish detailed descriptions of this phenomenon (irreversible finasteride-induced sexual dysfunction), excluding other known causes of sexual dysfunction. That would be scientific. To this date, I have yet to see a single case history in the medical literature (including the Journal of Sexual Medicine).

Is It Realistic to Expect Finasteride to Keep My Hair for Decades? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I recently went to my Family doctor and told him about my hair loss problem. He prescribed me proscar which he said I have to cut in quarters and take it daily. I asked him how long my hair would last on this medication. He specifically told me as long as I am taking the medication I can have my hair forever, till the day I die sort of speak. He told me he has had patients on proscar for 15-20 years that still have all their hair and are well into their 30’s and 40’s now.

I am 28 years old, so I am hoping my hair loss stops by the time I am in my 30’s, b/c so far my hair loss hasn’t progressed that much since I started to 1st notice I was losing hair. Do you think me having hair well into my 40’s and 50’s is a realistic goal with proscar?

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I know how cliche this sounds, but nothing lasts forever and everyone is different. Propecia/Proscar (finasteride) is not a cure for hair loss. It helps slow down the process. Some patients respond very well to the drug, while others do not. I cannot predict how you will do with the medication.

One of my favorite patients has been on finasteride for 14 years and it completely reversed his crown loss, which is still the case today. So it is possible that the medication can help for a long time… but I have no idea if that will be the case for you.