I Didn’t Like My Doctor’s Opinion, So I Ordered Finasteride Online – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hello Doctor,

i’ve since talked to my GP about medication regarding prevention of hair loss, he didn’t seem that bothered. He was more interested in assuring me that no medication works and my efforts will be pointless however he did steer me away from rogaine as i suffer from psoriasis.

I’ve since ordered generic finesteride but am not sure about the product i received. Firstly its called PROSCARE and not proscar, does that matter? They are small blue pills from “centurian laboratories” and i received 60 5mg tablets for $88.75 which sounds too cheap. It was one of the first results on google when i search cheap generic finesteride.

Do you think the product i have purchased could be a rip off and a “dodgey” item?

Thanks for your help doctor

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UghOh boy. First, the doctor you went to is correct — there is no medication to take for hair loss prevention. Neither finasteride nor minoxidil should be used to prevent something that might not even occur. If you’re losing hair (even in the early stages) that is a different story, but I don’t know where your loss is at, if any.

So, let’s get back to what I do know: you bought a prescription medication off the web (WITHOUT a doctor’s prescription or recommendation), and you found this online store by searching for “cheap finasteride”. This was not a smart move. Besides the financial aspect of money wasted, you are creating a health risk by taking unknown medication.

At least you realize that the pills you bought sounded a bit odd. I’ve never heard of “Proscare”, but it’s not uncommon for a generic drug maker to name their product something similar to the real thing. I can’t find any mention of a product by that name, except for on sites that sell it. I have no idea if this is legitimate generic finasteride. The name sounds frightening, though. Who puts “SCARE” right in the name of a medication? I even found the Centurion Laboratories site and they make no mention of finasteride. Sounds completely dodgy to me.

What you should’ve done is gotten a 2nd opinion from another doctor if you felt the first doctor you saw was uncaring about your situation. You’re not going to do yourself any good by buying illegal prescription drugs. At the least, I’ll give you a silver star for effort and knowing the spelling of Proscar.

Reader Has Had Good Results from Avodart – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I’ve been on Avodart for 2 years now with good results. Propecia simply stopped working for me. I believe we all know that Avodart is more effective. Are you a “paid speaker” for Merck? Thanks…

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AvodartAvodart (dutasteride) is possibly more effective for some men, but at what cost? Not only has dosage not been defined for treating hair loss and the side effect risks may be greater, but clinical trials aren’t even complete. Remember, Propecia is FDA approved to treat hair loss… Avodart is not. As a physician, it is difficult to make a recommendation to a wide internet audience for a medication like dutasteride that would have to be prescribed off-label.

I need to know more about the medication before I can feel comfortable recommending it. I’m glad you have good results from Avodart, but I don’t know anything about you (age, hair loss history, etc)… so I couldn’t use your 3 sentence review as something that would change my opinion.

I’m not on Merck’s payroll nor do I own stock in them. I’ve answered the question a few times. Here’s a post from a few years ago that should help explain this (it still applies today).

A Reader’s Early Finasteride Results – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dr. Rassman,

I’m sure you get plenty of repetitive questions and whining but I just wanted to share more good news from people out on the Internet.

I started taking generic proscar 4 months ago to help my diffuse thinning and hope for some nice reversal. The thing I was scared most of was side effects. I did get a strange aching in the testicles for about a week, it was annoying, but it went away. However, after that, I continued to get some strange groin/testicle aches. I made sure it wasn’t a result of an injury exercising. If I stopped taking my finasteride for two days, it went away.

However, right around the 3 month mark it went away completely and I have had no more side effects. I have started to see tiny hairs sprout up all around my hairline and I am hoping for minor regrowth and at least stabilization of my hair.

Finally, the “itching” a lot of people with MPB seem to have has went away completely within the last two weeks. It has been very a very plesant month for me on finasteride and I do not regret taking it at all!

Thanks for telling people to take it. It really does seem to be a safe medication.

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As I’ve said before, when finasteride/Propecia works well for a patient, he isn’t likely to bombard internet forums with his positive results (they just go about their daily lives)… but if he feels like he’s been wronged or cheated, he might have no problem going out of his way to let everyone know on every website he can find. That’s why the complaints can be more in your face than the positive messages and can give a skewed impression of the actual statistics. So it’s good to have a balance.

What I’m trying to say is, thanks for writing about your experience and I’m glad the medication has worked out. I always like reading good news.

Would 4 or 5 Months Off Propecia Make a Big Impact on My Hair Loss? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I had to stop taking propecia last year because i couldn’t afford it. 4 or 5 months went by before i could afford to start taking it again. Will i grow back the hair i lost in this 4/5 month period? Would this have had a big impact on my hairloss?

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Any hair you lost in those 4 or 5 months would not be regained by getting back on Propecia. That thinning is sometimes referred to as “catch-up” hair loss, which is the loss that would have occurred if you never took the Propecia in the first place. You didn’t lose more hair than you would have, but you lost all the benefits of Propecia. If you restart Propecia it is as if you started from day one… which is why we advocate that you continue taking it.

If you cannot afford Propecia (1mg finasteride), there is generic 5mg finasteride for sale at a cost of around $60 a year. Yes, a year. Any pharmacy will have this 5mg generic. You just need a doctor that will prescribe this higher dose to treat hair loss (it’s a prostate medication otherwise), and you’ll need to cut the pill into 4 pieces (easier than cutting into 5 parts).

Does Any DHT Reduction Shrink the Prostate? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi Dr. Rassman,

I regret to inform you that after recently undergoing a v. successful hair transplant I was prescribed 1.25 mg of finasteride every Mon, Wed and Fri. This is all good news but the bad news is that when I got to my laptop I got on the internet and started researching the drug and found the scaremonger sites about permanent side effects. Although I’m skeptical and like you believe more in scientific research plus I am impressed at your responses to people who ask about the drug, it has still planted a seed in my head. I’m going to make a decision on whether to take the ‘risk’ soon but first have some questions that I cant find the answers to.

1. Does ANY reduction of DHT i.e. any amount (1.25mg every other day-5mg daily) of a suppressant like finasteride result in a shrinkage of the prostate? Or is it possible to suppress the hormone enough to slow hair loss but not interfere with the prostate?

2. I took Avodart 0.5mg for a year and got slight ED. I was prescribed it for hair loss in the UK which I’m sure is not ethical. I stopped taking it but that was about 2 years ago, I’m 25 now and as finasteride is weaker is it logical to assume that the sides if I get them may not be as bad even though I’m older and my neuro endocrinal system and gonadal system (I think that’s right) could be at a different stage to when I was 22?

3. If you have looked at some of the YouTube videos and forums for the men who claim to have permanent side effects from the drug, although you haven’t seen their medical records or examined them and I know you are professional in that you don’t like to jump to conclusions, if you made an educated guess what would you assume has done this if it isn’t the drug?

I know that the decision is mine to take, but I am worried about the stuff I have read. I feel that your answers to these questions could help me make my decision. Thank you

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I am curious about your research on the Internet. As you found your “scaremonger” sites on finasteride, have you researched the “scaremonger” sites on hair transplants? Because you will find many and it will be a double whammy for you since hair transplants are permanent (side effect from finasteride are not).

To answer your questions:

1. Finasteride in 5mg is used for certain prostate conditions. Finasteride in 1mg or 1.25mg should have little or no impact on prostate health, but the inferences are there.

2. Avodart (dutasteride is the generic name) works in a similar way as Propecia (finasteride is the generic name) by blocking DHT production. Side effects from dutasteride and finasteride are similar, but with dutasteride being a stronger medication, it’s difficult to suggest you wouldn’t experience any side effects from finasteride. No matter how similar they are still different.

3. I have seen some of the YouTube videos, but you highlighted what many of these videos tend to be with a single word: “scaremonger”. I can’t begin to hypothesize what those people are going through, but there is clearly an agenda. They do not like finasteride. That doesn’t mean finasteride is the cause of their problems, but some people simply aren’t willing to look past that to see if there is something else going on.

You decision should be made with your doctor (not me).

Is My Propecia Expired? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hey doctor, I have 1 year old propecia sitting in my drawer. I am wondering if it is still safe to take the drug or will it loose all effectiveness? I cannot find any expiration date on the package. Thank you.

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The Propecia bottle should have an expiration date stamped towards the bottom of the front label, right next to the lot number.

In the event that you find the date and discover it has passed, you shouldn’t be using expired drugs (I would say the same about expired bread or milk). While it may not harm you, the effectiveness of the drug may be diminished.

I Don’t Trust My Doctor After He Recommended Rogaine and the Laser Comb – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi Doctor Rassman, first let me start off by thanking you for running the balding blog the way you do. Its the only real source for hair loss questions/answers that I trust in terms of reliability and i would be lost without it.

I am a 23 year old male who noticed a bit of a “wider part” and “larger cowlick” around 2 years ago. I’d wager I’ve thinned a bit since then, but i still have full coverage with no pure bald spots, thinning primarily noticable in the crown region. I took propecia for 8 months and then, like an idiot quit the medication out of fear it was doing nothing and i was throwing money away. approx. 4 months later I realized the thinning sped up so now I am taking the medicine again. I don’t really trust my prescribing doctor’s knowledge…he recommended using the laser comb and rogaine before I attempted propecia but I was persistent.

my questions:
1. Who can map my hair for miniaturization in my surrounding area?
2. assuming I will end up a norwood 6(like my father)what type of coverage could a transplant offer me if we assumed I had average scalp laxticity and average hair density?
3. Do you believe there will be breakthroughs in the next decade that will prevent most of my generation from being forced to live their lives as bald men?

Thanks again for this site

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We have written in the past about the LaserComb — basically, we don’t feel it works for treating hair loss. Rogaine, however, is an option if you are persistent enough to apply it twice a day, everyday. In my opinion, most men are horrible at keeping to a regimen and it is a factor you must consider when starting any daily routine like this.

Thank you for sharing your experience on Propecia. It seems that you experienced “catch up” hair loss after stopping the medication. While you will not gain what you lost, restarting the medication was probably a good idea.

Now to answer your questions —

  1. On the east coast, I would trust Dr. Bernstein in New York. He was with New Hair Institute until he branched off to start his own clinic and he’ll be able to map your scalp for miniaturization.
  2. Coverage really depends on your hair character + hair/skin color contrast. If you’ve got black hair, white skin, and a very fine hair character… you won’t have good coverage. If you’ve got thick blonde wavy hair, you’ll have better luck.
  3. Certainly there is work being done and there is a huge market for it, but what you’re asking about is essentially a cure for hair loss. While I do hope something happens within the next decade, I really have no way of knowing if the current work being done is the answer we’re all looking for. Keep your fingers crossed, but your expectations realistic.

So Finasteride and Rogaine Are the Recommended Treatments? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hello,

I have a receding hairline (power alleys) that I’ve watched continually recede over the past few years. It appears that the majority of my hair loss is in the frontal hariline, but over the past year I’ve noticed that the hair on the top of my head has become thinner. Each year that has passed I’ve noticed a logical progression of balding. I’m 30 years old now and am looking into taking medication to not only prevent further loss, but to possibly regrow some of what has been lost on top. With my age, I feel confident in the hair loss that has occurred in my frontal hairline area. If it was possible to strengthen the frontal hairline again, then that would be icing on the cake.

I’ve flipped through the website, and from what I could find, it sounds like Finasteride and Rogaine would be the products to use in order to obtain the results I’m after. Could you verify this or offer any other treatments?

I will be getting an assessment from a dermatologist as well, but I would like to get a second opinion from this website. Unfortunately, I do not have any photos at this time. Thanks for the help

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The only FDA approved medications to treat hair loss are finasteride (Propecia) and minoxidil (Rogaine). You might read about supplements, lasers, magic lotions, etc, etc… but none of them are proven to work and in my opinion, are a waste of time. Hair loss is progressive, so the more time you spend experimenting with things that aren’t likely to work, the more time and hair is lost.

Propecia is by prescription only, and minoxidil is available at most pharmacies. Now whether these medications will work in the hairline for you remains to be seen. Generally, they work best in the crown/top of the scalp.

Hope that helps!

Merck’s FDA-Submitted Propecia Documents – Balding Blog

Hello Dr,
First I would like to thank you for your great blog which is extremely helpful. I am a medical school student and I was doing some research on the documentation of Merck for approval of Propecia. Some data which was submitted to FDA brought my interest toward these documents. [Link: PDF file]

As you can see in the link above there are some figures regarding the DHT in scalp as well at T serum. I can see clearly that 0.05mg of finasteride would significantly lower T and DHT levels in scalp while this dosage does not effect the hormone levels as much in the rest of the blood (although the numbers are lower for 0.05mg,but still they are very close to 1mg and look very effective). Now my question to you is that why aren’t we using 0.05mg dosage instead of 1mg? 1mg finasteride seems to lower DHT and T levels a lot more in the blood which causes uncomfortable side effects; and we also know that once we lower 1mg to 0.5 (half a pill) or 0.25mg the side effect tend to subside, so we do know that the side effects of finasteride are dosage dependent.

Also I would like to add that I am at one of the UC system medical schools and we have been running and experiment on MPH sufferers and so far (within 1.5 years of our study) we have been successful up to 88.5% to get the same results of finasteride 1mg by using 0.2mg dosage on 749 men. unfortunately I am not allowed to release more information about out experiment, but the results are very convincing and our study will continue for another 3-5 years on these patients.

Thank you

It has been known that a 1/2 dose of Propecia (finasteride 0.5mg) and even 1/10 dose (finasteride 0.1mg) showed efficacy on androgenic alopecia. I am aware of the study you’re referencing, and we’ve written in the past about how the 1/2 dose of Propecia is about 80% as effective as the full dose. So I believe your study! I do wonder why your school would be conducting a study that has already been published and established or why you would not be able to publish your results. I must not have all the story here.

I would say in the real world many patients with side effects elect to take 1/2 dose Propecia and see benefits for their hair. It is my understanding the 1mg finasteride was chosen for Propecia to give maximum benefits for a wide percentage of the general population while maintaining the lowest side effect profile balance. You said yourself, 88.5% get same results on 0.2mg finasteride. Maybe Merck wanted that number a bit higher for the general public.

I would be curious to know the reduction in side effects from 1mg to 0.2mg. If the reduction was not significant then I could understand why a drug company would choose the 1mg option. I do not know if this is what really happened, but it is my speculation and logical guess. Perhaps you should find this information or add it to your experiment/research and publish the data. Good luck!




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If Propecia Only Holds Hair for X Years, Why Even Take It Before a Transplant? – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

You have stated many times that Propecia usually slows down the balding process, but does not stop it completely.

Let’s say someone has started thinning in areas that Propecia typically works on. How long can the average person expect to keep that hair assuming the drug works?

If Propecia works for five years and then all of that hair falls out soon after, does it really matter if someone is on the drug before they get a transplant? The hair will just fall out anyways.

Thanks for your time.

Yes, nothing stops hair loss completely. But I would like to answer your question with another question — Wouldn’t you want to keep your existing hair as long as possible along with the transplanted hair?

Taking Propecia before a hair transplant also protects against shock loss, which is additional thinning that occurs following the surgery.

I’ve had some patients that have taken Propecia for over a decade still with great results, yet I’ve also seen patients with hair loss progressing again after just a few years on the drug. As for the average person and what they can expect, the numbers are available at the Propecia site here.


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