The Price of a FUE Megasession? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

hi Dr. Rassman,
i just had a quick question for you and i would really appreciated if you could answer it. well dr. rassman i just wanted to know, i’m thinking of having a hair transplant and the only way would be with the FUE procedure. i’ve been saving money for that the past 4 years just for this, so was just wondering let say i get a mega session done with about 2,500 to 3,000 hairs how much would that cost??

and doesn’t matter when i get it even if its on a stand by procedure could you give me a rough estimate?? so i can keep on saving so what i have is not enough. once again thanks for your answer and keep up the great work!!

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First, we generally use the term “grafts” which will contain 1, 2, 3, or 4 hairs. I have heard of some doctors doing 2500 to 3000 graft FUE procedures, but in my experience as the one who first published the FUE techniques in 2002 (which all doctors use), megasession FUE of that high a number may be dangerous in terms of the graft survivability and donor area scarring.

At New Hair Institute, we usually limit the FUE to 1500 maximum, but may flow over into a second day surgery in special cases where the donor density is good. The cost of FUE at NHI is now $8/graft with my associate Dr. Pak. We do not offer the FUE procedure in our standby program.

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I have been on propecia – Generic for about 7 months. I am bald on my crown. I am 43. I have not seen any hair growth. Should I stop. I am interested in FUe and not FUT. I keep my hair really short. I am happy with not having a full head of hair, and have successfully used a hair fiber to conceal my bald spot.

Can you provide me any advice on the propecia and also what I need to get FUE. FUT is just not an option for me due to the pain, healing time and the inability to exercise for 30 days.

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I don’t know your medical history, you’re not my patient, and I didn’t prescribe you Propecia. Any one of those would be reason enough to make me uncomfortable giving you personalized medical advice about your prescription drug regimen. You should discuss any changes with your medication with your doctor. That being said, Propecia might not regrow your crown, but could be preventing it from getting worse. Like I said though, I don’t know your history so I’d just be making complete guesses if I continue.

As for your interest in follicular unit extraction (FUE), short hairstyles are possible without revealing any linear scarring (because there is no line), but if you shave your head you will still be able to see some tiny pinhole scars. I don’t know how short of a haircut you’re talking about.

You are correct in that healing time is quicker with FUE compared to the traditional strip technique, but the biggest trade-offs are price (FUE is more labor intensive and thus more expensive) and with the strip, we have the ability to get more hair in a single session. Those may be non-factors though, depending on your hair requirements and finances. For more info about FUE, see here and here.

Could FUE Give Me a Hairline Like Morrissey? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hello Doctors

My question is about FUE & FUE2. Would it be realistic expectation for a male patient who is a Norwood IV and benefiting from Propeciea in the crown to achieve a good density in a conservative and mature frontal hair line? I get the impression from your previous entries that it may be expecting too much . I do also understand from the all the great articles you have provided that FUE seems to best used for smaller amounts of grafts needed in patients.

If i could get a outcome to resemble something like this mans hair i would be happy: Morrissey photo

I think that’s a great look. Thanks for your time and all the great info.

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MorrisseyThe density has nothing to do with the harvesting method used, just the number of hairs per square mm that the grafts are placed in. Generally, depending upon hair/skin color and hair texture, the amount of hair needed to look full will reflect somewhere between 25-50% of your original density. One reason follicular unit extraction (FUE) might be best used for smaller cases has more to do with costs involved, since it is the more expensive procedure.

Could you look like Morrissey, the musician shown in the photo you linked to? I suppose that depends on what you start with. It is a great look, and if you have similar hair type and the grafts available, I don’t see why it isn’t possible. Take a look at our photo gallery and see hundreds of patient results. Or better yet, come to an Open House and meet some of our patients in person.

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I have quite a lot of hair in my neckline. The hair is thick and straight, which makes me wonder whether it could be transplanted to my head. I have already had 1000 grafts via FUE, and I see the diffuse pattern from the FUE transplant whenever I trim my hair very close to the scalp. Using neck hair seems like a way to augment the donor pool, but I don’t know how receptive the scalp is to that type of hair and whether FUE performed on the neck would leave visible scarring. What do you think?

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Neck hairNeck hair is not considered “permanent” like the hair on the back of your scalp. There is a chance that as you get older your neck hair will fall out, so if neck hairs were used for a hair transplant it would also fall out. This is what makes neck hair not ideal for transplantation.

In addition, as you clearly have found out, follicular unit extraction (FUE) still produces small round punctate scars. So if you have a FUE procedure to the hairs on your neck you will definitely see the same type of scarring, which would be more difficult to hide.

In the News – Other Doctors Starting to Warn About NeoGraft – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Snippet from the article:

Hair transplant experts are excited about a new technology called NeoGraft that restores lost hair.

But they warn that a never-ending series of bad hair days could be the outcome for patients who turn to NeoGraft clinics run by poorly trained doctors and technicians.

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NeograftRead the full text — Bad hair forever? Experts: It’s possible

A little over 3 months ago, I posted my concerns about the NeoGraft hair transplantation tool and the fact that it was being marketed to surgeons that had no experience doing hair transplants. Well, now it seems others are finally speaking out.

I have personally tried to get to the company to observe the system in action, but my requests have been ignored by them. Considering that I hold many patents in this field and am a real expert on automation, their disinterest tells me that they don’t want to be observed in action. I would, of course, remain objective and if it is all that it is hyped to be, I would probably want to buy one… but that does not seem to be happening any time soon.

Maximum Amount of Grafts That Can Be Extracted with FUE? – Balding Blog

Hey Doctor
Thanks for the website. In a person with average hair denisity, what is the maximum number of grafts on average that you would believe could be extracted over time using FUE (i.e more than one procedure)?

I really do not know the maximum and I would be just giving you a theoretical number. In practice, I believe we may have done about 4000 grafts over several procedures using only FUE.




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FUE Megasessions? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

if this is answered in your blogs forgive me and just send a link. i am clear i want a ht. i have done much research and am still meeting with docs. i can do in thailand, uk, usa. my one reservation has been the scarring and after effect, plus temporary nerve damage on the head. after realising FUE could be done in a megasession i feel this is it for me, (told i need 3-4000 hairs/grafts). as i research so many are careful, sceptical of it. i have come across you (dr. Rassman) and dr. cole. i understand a skilled physician is necessary. will FUE of 3-4000 grafts megasession handle it for me (norwood 3v to a 4)? do you recommend it more than strip or not? is it a very viable option? with dr. cole or you? thank you.

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A skilled physician is necessary for any surgery you have, and one that specializes in the cosmetic surgery you’re looking into is absolutely something I’d recommend. If you’re asking me whether you should go to me for your hair transplant or go to another surgeon, well, I think the answer would be pretty obvious. However, I cannot recommend surgery options for you at this point, as I have not examined you or know of your medical history. Everyone is different and all surgery has its risks and benefits (FUE vs strip, etc).

What I can tell you is that I have never performed a 3000 to 4000 graft follicular unit extraction (FUE) procedure in one session. I think I can say this with some authority, as I was the one who introduced the FUE technique to the international community in 2002, but an FUE procedure of that size will likely lead to a higher transection rate due to physician fatigue.

I realize it has been 8 years since the technique was introduced and other physicians have performed and tried to perfect the technique, but there are factors that the general public do not know of in such surgery. To the general public, FUE sounds slick and the best of all worlds (you get hair with minimal scarring). But there are some thing you need to look out for. Please read about these in my post from a few years back — What Doctors Don’t Want You to Know About FUE.

I’ve Got More Questions Since My Consult at NHI! – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Dr. Rassman,

I wanted to ask you a question about hairlines but first, I wanted to personally thank the staff at NHI, Dr. Pak and you for the wonderful visit I had at NHI this past Friday. This is a bit long winded but please bear with me.

I am a 25 year old caucasian male with light brown hair and am in good health. I started noticing a little thinning at my temples over the last year. To be honest, I was very nervous. I then went from nervous to hysterical. I could not stop thinking about it. Nothing can be more vicious than your own imagination and mine was painting all kinds of horrible scenarios.

In lieu of this, I made several appointments to see various hair transplant doctors here in Southern California. Of course, I never ACTUALLY meet with a doctor. Instead, I ended up talking to a consultant. To be perfectly honest, I did not gain a great deal of insight from these visits. I wanted something empirical to measure my hair loss, a metric I could use to stay informed and make an intelligent decision about my hair loss. None of these visit’s gave me that information.

The balding blog has been a part of my daily routine for a little while now and I decided to do what you suggest in so many of your posts and get my hair mapped for miniaturization and start my master plan. I was looking forward to my visit but also fearing it a little as well. So many things over the last few months have convinced me that I was going to bald to a Norwood class 4, 5 or 6. Pictures I had taken in the last few months, the look of my hair when it is wet or under bright lights. Except for my temples, I looked normal but I felt awful.

Then I came to NHI this Friday and that all changed in about 5 minutes.

I can’t tell you how much better I feel after visiting your office. I made an appointment to see Dr. Pak and he was very informative and understanding. He magnified my donor area for me to show me what non-miniaturized hairs look like. He then moved the scope to various parts of my head. This is the part where I held my breath. However, when he zoomed in on my crown, he saw no miniaturization. The same was true for my vertex and other parts of my head. In fact, the only area that showed any miniaturization was my temples, something my paranoid imagination would not let me believe.

Words can not describe how relieved I was. Dr. Pak was very helpful and he answered all of my questions. However, on my drive home I though of one more question I wished I had asked him and it is this: If none of my hairs, other than my temples, displayed miniaturization then where does my fight against balding go from here?

In your Hair Loss for Dummies Book (page 12) you say the following; “If you’ve inherited this pattern (Class 7), it is usually evident by the time you are 30“. In my examination, Dr. Pak said that my fears about progression to a class 7, 6 or 5 were unwarranted. In fact, he didn’t assign a class at all. He said my hair was healthy all over and my density (2.0) was normal (only miniaturization at the temples).

Am I simply developing a mature hairline? In this post from your blog you say that the mature hairline develops from ages 17-29. I guess what I am trying to understand is the correlation between someone’s age and their degree of miniaturization. At 25, is it too early or difficult to diagnose what class I may (if ever) progress to? Could a Norwood 7 be a lot easier to spot at my age that say, a norwood 3 or 4? I only ask because if I don’t progress any further in the next 5 to 10 years, would some moderate temple restoration be out of line with FUE?

I am 25, but I am not so naive as to think that the battle is over. I do not intend to let anyone else touch my hair except NHI now that I have visited your office. Dr. Pak put me on finasteride and I fully intend to visit your office on an annual basis to check on my hair. Like you say, tenacity and diligence.

Sorry again for the long winded question and many, many thanks to Dr. Pak and you for keeping me informed about my hair loss and educating me before I gave into my fears and did something drastic and foolish.

Sincerely and respectfully

If at any point in the future you want to address only the front corner areas, you can always do so with a small hair transplant procedure using FUE.

You may have a maturing hairline… perhaps in combination with slight recession in the corners. It remains to be seen as you age, but take comfort that Dr. Pak did not see miniaturization beyond the front corners. Stick with the medication and we’ll see you again for your follow-up appointment.

Finally, thank you for the kind email and allowing us to publish it.

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Getting More Permanent Hair from the Scalp? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi Dr. Rassman,

Excellent blog. I read it every day and would love to add my question to the plethora of information available.

I have a question about donor supply. I of course understand that when it comes to strip harvesting, you can only cut out so much of the skin, and that only some of the hair at the back, below a certain line, is permanent. But I’d like to know why after using up all the available donor hair with reference to what you can get with the strip-cup method, you can’t go in and take more grafts via the FUE method. There is still plenty more permanent hair at the back and although it might be too low to cut into because of the nerves and muscles, using tiny punches to get it out I’m guess wouldn’t have negative affects.

Thinning out the sides too would I think also have the advantage of not only providing more donor hair, but it would also make the transplanted area not look as thin in comparison since you’re making this “thick” permanent zone thinner.

With doctors performing FUE where ever there is hair, even body hair, I’d like to know why you can’t just go after more permanent hair that you still have in the back of your head and on the sides.

Thanks!

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Doing a strip harvest for the first hair transplant surgery and a follicular unit extraction (FUE) at a later time is generally not advisable, as you limit the donor density with the FUE. Essentially, you’re asking why doctors don’t try to thin the donor area as much as possible, but for many people having the sides and back of the head looking sparse would also be a problem. Then again, everyone is different and I would rather not make a rule without knowing your situation. If you start with strip harvesting, you should finish with strip harvesting if you go for another procedure.

Density – FUE Versus FUT – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

One aspect puzzles me. In FUT a strip is removed and closed so a part of the scalp vanishes and is replaced by a thin scar. The areas adjoining the scar retain their hair density and very often with trichophytic closure hair grows out of the scar, again with no reduction in density.

In FUE follicular units are harvested individually. No large scar is generated but hundreds (thousands?) of tiny ones. However (and this is my main point), donor area density is reduced because the scalp from where the hair is removed does not vanish and is essentially now a tiny bald spot.

Does this mean FUE thins out the donor area in return for not creating a long FUT scar? Is that the trade-off?

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Thanks for asking, as this can be a bit abstract.

When you remove a strip of hair (say 1/2 inch wide by 4 inches long) you are effectively removing skin and pulling the scalp from top and bottom. This in effect stretches the scalp/skin along with the hairs. So if you have a very, very precise measuring tool of hair density before and after the surgery, then you will definitely see a decrease in hair density after the surgery… but this reduction in density is very low and not perceptible to the naked eye.

When follicular unit extraction (FUE) is performed, many hundreds and thousands of hairs are taken out (and never grow back on that spot) so it is easy to see how this would also reduce the donor density.