Transplanting Neck Hair to My Mustache? – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

I had a question regarding a moustache transplant. I have a sparse moustache and thin hair on my head. I’m concerned that my head hair would not be thick enough for facial hair. I was wondering if it is possible to transplant my much thicker coarser beard hair on my neck to thicken my moustache without too much scarring. My beard goes all the way down to my chest and I hate shaving it anyways. Thanks

MustacheHair from anywhere on the body can be transplanted to another location. Follicular unit extraction (FUE) is a good way to do a limited number of hair transplants into a mustache. This is something that you and your doctor should discuss.

Remember, however, that hair from different areas on the body have different hair cycles, which means that if the telogen (resting) cycle is long and the anagen (growing) cycle is short, then less of the hairs will be working for you at any one time. You can learn more about hair growth cycles here.

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Female Hair Transplant Without a Line Scar? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi I am a 20 yr old female wondering about a hairline transplant. A previous question on your site about evening out a widows peak was the most similar to my request. I have had a high hairline on the sides for several years and a recent year on medications has now thinned out the hair on either side near the temple. I have always hated my hairline which is ill suited to my face shape and want to at least fill in the hairline around my temples. I am assuming hair grafts would be the correct procedure and want to know more about them.

HAving watched documentation of several female hairline transplants I wonder : Is the donor area for the grafts always left with a long scar? (example had one across the back of her head) CAn this be done without any scarring or difference to the doner area? and (of course) what would be the cost for this procedure?

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There are 2 techniques for hair transplantation — the strip method (with the linear scar) and FUE (where you are left with small punctuate scars in the donor area). There’s no surgical procedure without some level of scarring, though trying to minimize the scarring is the best we can do. Everyone scars differently, and closure techniques for the strip method have resulted in extremely thin linear scars, and the length of the scar depends on the amount of grafts required. Costs also depend on how many grafts are needed, with FUE fees being higher due to the more time-intensive nature of the procedure. You can learn more about FUE at the following pages:

Gho Clinic Says Their FUE Allows the Donor Hair to Regrow?! – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dr. Rassman
i have stumbled upon a hair transplant clinic in Prague called the “GHO clinic” which offer a proprietary FUE in which apparently the donor hair will regrow (page here)

i don’t know how well the human body would repair a partially punched out hair follicle, i just want to ask if this procedure is actually hair multiplication available today or just someone trying to make his FUE look better than everyone else’s?

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I just chaired the session at the annual ISHRS meeting in Amsterdam and had Dr. Coen Gho as one of the speakers. I had lost my voice, so I could not comment as the chair of that session, but considering that you asked me about him, I will use this as a forum to speak my opinion on what I heard.

Dr. Gho reported that he did 1500 patients with his “cloning” procedure. If I had to give a score to the material he presented using a 1-10 scale for scientific credibility, I’d score it a 1, with 1 being the lowest possible. His science was pathetic, with slides that were blurred and blackened out so that there was really nothing to see. He claimed that his FUE technique cut the follicular units in half longitudinally, and that the part that remained regrew hair, but there was no proof of this in any of the material he showed. He did not show any patient results and certainly was never reviewed by any credible agency or physician.

Partially divided follicles have been well studied by many prominent researchers. Despite their attempts, none succeed to create even an equal amount of hair (equal to the original divided follicular units). Dr. Kim (Korean researcher) had done some wonderful research on this very subject and failed to do what Dr. Gho claims. I believe that what I heard from Dr. Gho is marketing hype without any evidence of any hairs regrowing.

Individual Graft Technique (IGT) – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Hi Dr. Rassman,

There is a Dr. in the Boston area doing an FUE type procedure he calls IGT. I am considering trying this procedure. He says he has improved on the FUE method and can do up to 1500 grafts in one session. I was wondering if you have heard about this and could comment based on yours or sombody else’s experience you may have heard of?

Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

I can not comment on a technique that I do not understand. If the doctor improved on the FUE techniques that I developed, I would love to know more about it. We all need hard evidence and good science when evaluating any technology.

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Painful Donor Area After Huge FUE Case – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

hi there

I had a FUE hair transplant. I had two sessions over two days of 3500 hairs. It has now been 2 weeks – the receipient hair looks great and I have had no pain. This is completley the opposite of the donor area. The donor area became so painful that I had to go to hospital for 6 days. The area was felt like it was burning and having constand tingling.

The neurologist advised I had “neuropathic pain”. I am now taking lyrica ( 3 tabs per day) to calm the nerves, neurobion, and tramadol (4oo mg per day) to help ease the pain. I am also using ice packs to calm the entire area.

Can you advise:
1: Have you ever heard/seen this type of reaction before. No where on the net can I find any reports of this type of negative reaction
2: How long can I expect this type of sensitivity from the donor area.

I look forward to your response

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3500 hairs or 3500 grafts? I will assume you’re talking about 3500 grafts. If I’m mistaken, let me know…

3500 FUE grafts over a two day surgery seems outside the standard of care today. I would doubt that your donor area would have enough hair to supply that, meaning that the grafts were taken outside the donor area in parts of your scalp that may not be permanent hair. I have heard unofficial reports about some patients where extremely large numbers of FUE grafts were extracted from the back and side of the head with compromises of blood flow, and complications such as bleeding and pain occurring. I’m not sure what was done in the surgery, so I couldn’t tell you how long your donor area will feel pain. Generally, I agree that the approach with the neurologist may be the best way to go until the pain subsides or is well controlled with medication.

Hair Loss InformationNotes from the ISHRS 2009 Conference, Part 2 – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

ISHRS 2009I just got back from the 17th annual scientific ISHRS meeting (basically a hair transplant doctor’s convention), which went on from July 22-26. Lots of information was presented… lots of lectures, presentations, and discussions. This year’s meeting was in Amsterdam, so I had quite a long flight back to California when it was all over and I was able to do a write up on the plane of what I learned. I thought I’d share…

If you missed yesterday’s post, check out part 1 of my ISHRS meeting notes! Here’s part 2…

 

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Hair transplant failures:
Hair transplant failures are often due to undiagnosed scarring (cicatricial) alopecias, so the need to detect them is critically important in advance of the procedure. The skin is often white and shiny and their activity may be in spurts, active at some times and inactive at other times. In my opinion and from my experience, women suffer more undiagnosed scarring alopecias than men and reflecting abnormal patterns of balding may be a clue to their presence. The doctor usually makes the diagnosis when these abnormal balding patterns appear and then the doctor will take multiple skin biopsies in the identified areas. Biopsies are the traditional approach, but the tissues that are taken for biopsy must have some active disease going on to affirm a diagnosis. When the biopsy approach to diagnosis is made, they are made with sizable tools (usually a series of 4 mm punches along the edge of the abnormal balding pattern). Alternatively, test transplants (which are limited procedures) can be done to see if growth occurs at 6-8 months. I have been performing test transplants over the years in such suspicious cases, as this is a more certain way of making the anticipation of success or failure of a traditional hair transplant. Failures of transplants in patients with such scarring alopecias are common.

Hairline design:
This is an area that I find most interesting. My philosophy is very different than most other doctors in the field. I tend to place hairlines in the mature position while most other doctors place the hairlines higher with more recession. There is a belief by many doctors that eventually a traditional mature hairline normally found in a non-balding man will not look normal as a man ages, so the hairline designs offered by many of my colleagues leave portions of the Norwood Class 3 and 4 frontal pattern into the end design of the hairline. Most men, however, want the man that they see in the mirror to reflect the mature hairline, not an “older” looking hairline, so I recommend the mature hairline almost all of the time. This is easily seen at our monthly open house events or online in our Hairline Photo Gallery. As my design of a hairline differs from many of the designs of my colleagues, the art form of a hair transplant surgeon will be evident to all.

Graft trimming:
Graft trimming by the surgeon and his team seems to reflect the robustness of the hair growth. A study was performed by Dr. Michael Beehner, where he trimmed the grafts from chunky to very skinny. The grafts that were made very skinny did not grow as well as those grafts that were made more chunky with more fat surrounding the hair grafts. Dr. Beehner believes that making grafts very skinny seems to:

  1. Open them up to the damage from drying and being out of the body for any prolonged period.
  2. Critical elements of the growth centers where stem cells exist, may be trimmed away during graft preparation.

New Hair Institute has always produced chubby grafts for these obvious reasons giving us a good growth track record. There is a direct relationships between the size of the graft and the ability to make recipient sites and place them well. The need to match the graft thickness with the recipient site holes are critical for good graft stability and growth.

FUE:
Four devices were shown to improve the FUE (follicular unit extraction) process. Each claimed that their product was the only one that worked. Every one had a mechanical rotation associated with it one with vibration, others with partial twists of varying diseases. Costs for these devices run as little as $60/each for a disposable device, to as high as possibly $200,000 for robotic controlled FUE soon to be available on the market. Clearly when there are so many options offered, the suggestion is that none really work well. Time will tell which are the best instruments by next year’s ISHRS meeting in Boston.

Saturday morning held a series of sessions called “Breakfast with the Experts”. My session on FUE seemed to have the highest audience. The concerns by the participants were the wild and unsubstantiated claims in performing high numbers of FUEs in a single procedure and a very unrealistic view of damage to the FUE graft from transaction and stripping the grafts in the process of extracting the grafts.

Wound closures:
Would closures from strip surgery were discussed in great detail by many doctors, each promoting their own prejudices. There was clearly no technique that was better than others to prevent scarring. Suggestions on trichophytic closures were one of the few bright spots, but the differences in the techniques used by the various doctors, in my opinion, ranged from effective to completely ineffective. In other words, getting a trichophytic closure is no guarantee of a great result from the technique and a trichophytic closure in one doctor’s hands may be a radically different technique than the same procedure in another doctor’s hands. Results ranged anywhere between wonderful and a complete failure.

Transplanting Hair from One Eyebrow to the Other? – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Several years ago, after waxing my eyebrows twice monthly, I decided to get electrolysis to shape them permanently. Now older and wiser, I realized that I took off too much on the ends and I am considering an eyebrow transplant. However, the remaining eyebrow is extremely thick, so I was wondering if you could so an eyebrow transplant using this excess eyebrow hair?

There are two issues here:

  1. Theoretically, you can transplant eyebrow hair from one eyebrow to the other, but it may produce unwanted hair loss and/or scarring in that area (even by using the FUE technique). And if you can harvest the excess eyebrow hair, it may not always grow. This in the end may leave you scarred and looking worse. I’m not trying to scare you from looking into this more, but it is a potential risk that you need to understand.
  2. You can have your scalp hair transplanted to your eyebrow with good results, but no doctor can reproduce the exact look of your original eyebrow… no matter how good the doctor says he/she is.


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Water Jet in FUE – Balding Blog

Dr Rassman,

This following thread discussed one of your patents: hair-restoration-info.com

Now in the patent there is a discussion of fluid being introduced during the procedure to separate the follicles. This is the same discussion that i saw on a hairloss forum you gave about the new FUE2 procedure which you said uses a water jet principle.

What i wanted to know what are your thoughts on Dr feller’s comments that

  1. Because the follicles are tiny, no amount of suction is powerful enough to actually grip and pull the graft out with any appreciable traction.
  2. The second is that FUE practitioners acknowledge that appreciable amounts of fluid are NOT required for FUE as once breifly thought in 2004. In fact, the less fluid the better.

Thanks

The patent mentioned in that forum was actually built by Dr. Jae Pak when he worked for me as a biomechanical engineer (before he became a doctor) and it was proven to work. The patent was eventually purchased by Restoration Robotics and there is an actual robot that does the FUE extraction (still in development, as far as I know). The patent they are referencing in that thread is not FUE2.

  1. Before all of this, there was another device designed by Dr. Boudjema in the late 1990’s that incorporated suction for the FUE. It did grip the follicle and pull the grafts out with traction, but it was not efficient.
  2. FUE is highly variable in terms of how it is performed and who it is performed on. There is no rule. Less fluid does not mean it is better. Sometimes more fluid works on some patients.

Since I introduced the FUE technique to the ISHRS meeting in 2002, FUE has blossomed and took a life of its own with different techniques and opinions by doctors all over the world! I believe it is a wonderful thing, as doctors will continue to innovate the technology and technique. To date, there is no one standard accepted universal method for the perfect FUE and that means that no one technique seems better for all of the doctors and all of the patients. Variability in technique is not good for patients as the concept of standardization just does not materialize, which is the sign of a mature technology.




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Healing After Small FUE Procedure – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

I recently had a FUE procedure (about 200 grafts) for a revision on some old scars (traction alopecia scars from a hairpiece system with clips)on the back and side of my head (about two weeks ago). When will the little holes turn white and how soon can I buzz my head down to a 1 blade without disturbing the grafts in the scars? I’m 49, bald most of my life, I just wanted to improve the scars a little bit for the buzzing…

For FUE, healing for the recipient area is easily complete in 2 weeks provided that the scabs are gone. You can do what you want as soon as the scabs comes off.


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Met with a Hair Transplant Surgeon — Is He Too Good to Be True? – Hair Loss Information by Dr. William Rassman

Hello. I recently visited a very well known transplant surgeon. He’s all over the internet and on many of the blogs etc. I think you may have referred to his practice in some of your recent postings. The photos and testimonials on his website are almost too good to be true, I mean the results are consistently the best I have seen anywhere internet. I am a forty year old white male, with receding hairline at the temples, I’m currently a NW3. I’m mainly just concerned with filling in the temples.

Here’s the issue. This doctor recommended 2500 FUE’s to fill in the hairline, this sounds a bit high to me, but he assured me that I wouldn’t be happy with any fewer. Is it wise in your opinion to do 2500 in the frontal zone based on what I’ve stated, I’m surely bound to keep loosing hair. And, can this doctor’s results be REAL? Even if he was cherry picking his best patients, he has probably 75 patients on his website, most with unbelievable results. I’m wondering if it’s marketing hype or is it real? Maybe he’s only doing very young patients with results that look great today, but not in the future? In addition, since this clinic only offers the FUE procedure, it is extremely expensive and would require a loan for me to complete the transplant. Thanks for your time.

Getting a second opinion is a reasonable next step. Some doctors produce a terrific marketing image showing what patients they want you to see. We offer our Open House events every month where you can see patients up close, ask them about their surgery, and get comfortable with the physicians and staff. For example, in our Los Angeles open houses, we often have a dozen patients to show off, and many just show up to help educate our prospective patients. Maybe you should listen to your instincts and get another opinion.

I can not comment on the 2500 graft recommendation with FUE (in one session? hmmmm) for a frontal hairline without at least seeing a photo of your hairline. Send me a good picture or three and point out the area where the surgeon said he would move the hair to. Reference this post when sending.


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