Hair Loss InformationLargest FUE Session? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi Doc,

I had a large FUE session 8 months ago with a reputable surgeon consisting of just under 3000 grafts with good results so far.

FUE is a hot topic these days and I would like to know what is the largest FUE session you have carried out on one person?

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We did a surgery of 2800 follicular unit extraction (FUE) grafts in a single, very tedious session. We don’t routinely perform FUE procedures of this size.

Could FUE Move Hair and Skin to Eliminate Scarring? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dear Dr Rassman, please excuse my question if it is stupid. I’m not medically trained!

What is normally discussed is the movement of hair follicles *from* the donor site *to* the recipient site. And this inevitably leaves some form of scarring in the donor area. But is it technically possible (in FUE) to also implant skin *from* the recipient area *to* the donor area, in such a manner to “eliminate” scarring? i.e. for every follicle the surgeon would swap tissues A and B, where A would be the tissue originally at the recipient site, and B the tissue originally at the donor site.

I’m sure this would be more costly for the patient, buy I’m wondering: has this ever been tested? And would it eliminate scarring?

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A number of years ago, a well-known doctor preached that small punch extractions of scars would produce “mini-scalp reductions”. It never worked. This sounds like what you are asking about, and if one removes scar from a scarred area, you just get scar to replace it. Not such a good idea.

By the way, there are no stupid questions. Your question reflects an inquiring mind.

Hair Loss InformationMy Surgeon Said I’ve Exhausted My Donor Area After Multiple Hair Transplants – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I am a 60 yo male. I’ve had multiple transplants via the strip method, most recently 2years ago. I’m pretty pleased with the results, but there is an area on the top toward the front where my hair is thinner than surrounding areas. It does not involve the hairline.

My surgeon told me I had exhausted the donor site after the last surgery. My ballpark guess is that 100-200 grafts would make a big difference.

1. Am I a candidate for FUE given my history?
2. If so, are 100-200 grafts a realistic expectation?
3. Do patients on Coumadin have to stop it prior to FUE surgery?

Thank you

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You might be a candidate for 200 graft FUE style, but we would have to evaluate you first. Each case is unique.

If you are on Coumadin (warfarin), I would consider still doing a limited FUE procedure, but you will almost certainly have some more bleeding than normal. This has to be discussed one-on-one with either Dr. Pak or myself.

I Have a Lot of Scabbing a Week After My FUE Procedure (with Photo) – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hi Doc,

I had a FUE done with 3000 grafts exactly 8 days ago (photo attached).

My concern is that there seems to have been a lot of scabbing or crusting (what is the difference between the two anyway?).

The scabbing/crusting started coming off in places near the restored hairline and it now looks like a river delta (i.e. lines where there is no hair/crusting/scabbing with pockets of crust/scab/hair).

Is this normal? Or is it due to trauma (e.g. scratching) or bad surgery? I know when I am awake, I do not touch the area (I have worn a bandana lightly from the day after the surgery, but only for a few days and first 2 nights). Sometimes at night, I inadvertently brush my hand against the recipient area and wake up.

My doctor advised me to start washing once a day from Day 2 onwards with a spray bottle with a mixture of baby shampoo and water (and rinsing with plain water from the spray bottle) which I have done.

Should I be trying to get rid of the scabs/crusts with light finger pressure when shampooing or should I wait for the 10th day before trying any of this? It is difficult to see the hair due to the black scabs/crusts, but the transplanted hair is there.

Thanks!

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The crusting is very bad, which means that your management of your scabs was not good. We rarely, if ever, see this degree of crusting. How is the scabbing in the donor area at the back of your scalp?

Be very careful not to rush to take these crusts off. Use a shampoo and leave it on for 10 minutes and then gently, very gently rub in the shampoo. The crusts will slowly loosen and eventually they will come off. Give it another 10 days and hopefully the problem will be gone.

The scabbing/crusting (interchangeable words) is pretty intense, but hopefully there is no problem with the grafts because of it. Of course, follow up with your surgeon if you are concerned.

FUE vs FUT – Which is Better? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

ImageThere is a question arising out of the hair transplant community which is becoming polarized and lining up for a fight: Which is better, FUT (Follicular Unit Transplant with Strip) or FUE (Follicular Unit Extraction)? Some doctors have already specialized in performing FUE alone, so their opinion is already made up. Some doctors new to the business entered the FUE market having never done an FUT strip procedure. That means that the nuances of quality control have not been learned (tricks to prevent graft damage from manipulation and drying).

I have had the opportunity to speak with some of these new doctors and they reported a substantial failure rate in their initial patients, but with time, they learned how to prevent damage and minimize transection of the grafts, and their results progressively got better. Their decisions on becoming hair transplant surgeons were initially made from a business mindset, under the assumption that the market demand would be there as they learned the process. This assumption is what actually happened. They also made the assumptions that the FUE technique would eventually be as good as the FUT technique over time. Again, this was a business, not a medical decision, and only time will tell these doctors if the quality of their work has met the needs of the patients.

ImageThe long term results with FUE (particularly on donor area damage in extensive FUE grafting) is not yet in. When we introduced the FUE technique in 2002 at the international meeting and in the Journal of Dermatological Surgery, there was not too much of an initial reaction, because the doctors who tried it quickly failed to get good quality grafts out. I remember two doctors in particular (names withheld) — one called me the first day after I returned from the meeting and I spent an hour on the phone explaining the subtle nuances that made it work for us. He thanked me, then quickly announced his new “pioneering invention”, the FUE technique, both on his website and through various press releases. Clearly he did not have the time to do more than one procedure and I felt sorry for that patient, a victim of a doctor’s greed for fame and money.


Another doctor who came out and quickly started offering FUE was more subtle about it, and it took longer to establish a presence in the market. His initial work produced many failures, some of which I saw in consultations in my office, and much of it through emails with pictures I received from the victims. For some doctors, FUE is about money and not about patient welfare.

ImageI predict that the history of FUE will parallel the history of the FUT strip procedure, which we pioneered in the early 1990s. As the FUT strip surgery caught on and as more and more doctors offered the procedure, performing the surgery on patient after patient, they too found that the initial results produced a high failure and complication rate. It took years to learn (1) how to get growth, (2) how to increase the number of grafts extracted and implanted safely in one session, and (3) how to avoid the terrible scar and donor wound complications (the worst being gangrene of the donor area). These three “HOW TOs” are the same issues with FUE that we are now confronted with. Only time will tell us what results we will get and only doctors who do both procedures will be in the best position to judge this comparison today.

Dr. Robert Bernstein (who also co-authored our original work on FUE), has since purchased and installed an FUE robot (Artas® System), which puts him in a unique position to draw conclusions to the question, “Which is Better, FUE or FUT?” He wrote the following text, which I totally agree with:

“I explain to patients that FUT (via strip) will give the best cosmetic results (more volume) since the grafts are of better quality (when using microscopic dissection, there is less transection and more surrounding tissue to protect the grafts) and better graft selection (the grafts can all be harvested from the mid-portion of the permanent zone) In contrast, in FUE you need approximately 5 times the area. Because of this large donor area requirement, some of the hair must be harvested from fringe areas and thus the hair will be less stable genetically. I relate that with subsequent FUT procedures we remove the first scar, but with subsequent FUE sessions we are adding additional scars, so over the long-term the cumulative scarring over large areas can present its own problems of visibility.”

“I explain that the main advantage of FUE is to have the option of wearing your hair very short (but not shaved). FUE is also appropriate for patients who are at risk for a widened donor scar (i.e., very athletic and muscular or with thin, tight scalps etc.). I relate to patients that, in my experience, Robotic FUE is superior to other FUE methods in that it is much more accurate and more consistent. It enables the doctor to extract grafts with less damage than with hand-held instruments or other automated devices.”

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ImageDr. Bernstein, like the editors of this blog and other good doctors, focus on quality care, safety, integrity, and discussing a balanced view of the FUE vs FUT discussion with the patient. When presented to the patient considering this decision, we call this “informed consent” and it not only reflects basic courtesy and respect shown to the patient, it is a requirement of the laws of most states and countries.

The patient must be presented a balanced view of the risks vs rewards of any procedure offered and the alternatives available to him/her. There are many good doctors who share these views.

 

Hair Loss InformationDifferences Between Strip and FUE? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

I’m told that there are two different processes for this procedure, one for a client with hair and another method for clients without hair. My understanding is the client must decide before the procedure which they want because the process for buzzed/shaved hair will not look right with the method used for longer hair and vice versa.

1. Is there two different methods, one for buzzed/shaved hair and one for hair with a longer length if so why and what is the difference between the two methods?
2. You indicated in an email that the same amount of dots are used for an individual with hair as one without. Why?
3. If the method for clients who want to leave some length to their hair is different from clients who have shaved/buzzed hair and the client must decide which method they want before the procedure, because the method for buzzed/shaved hair won’t look right with clients who leave some length to their hair what happens if the clients hair thins out in the future? Will it not look right?
4. I’m told the hair must be shaved/buzzed before the procedure. If that is the case, and the method for longer hair is used which they say doesn’t look right with shaved/buzzed hair is that going to look weird until the hair grows back?
5. How deep does the needle go?
6. For my situation being that I want to keep my hair longer than a buzzed/shaved length do you use dots or more of a blanket coverage. Can you explain? If you use dots what size would the follicle dot be?

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There are two ways to harvest the donor hair for transplantation:

1. Take out the hairs one-by-one using a small (1mm diameter) punch. This is called the Follicular Unit Extraction (FUE) method. To do this, you need to shave the back of your scalp so that that hairs will fit into the small punch. Without shaving the area, you can individually thread each long hair into the small 1mm diameter punch, but that would be a very, very long and inefficient process. FUE will allow you to have a buzz cut or keep your hair very short later on (when everything has healed) without seeing scarring… but if you shave your head completely, you will see thousands of white dot scars. So there will be scarring there, just not a linear scar.

The needle goes in the depth of a follicle, which is about 5mm, and the dots of the FUE scar can range from 0.8mm to 2mm in diameter. It all depends on how each person heals and the size of the instruments used by the doctor. To read more about the pros and cons for FUE, see here.

2. Another method (strip surgery) is to cut out a small section of your scalp and stitch it back together, like if you had a cut to any part of your body. This section of removed scalp is taken and dissected under a microscope into individual follicles. Your body will heal with a line scar, which won’t be visible if you keep your hair relatively long. The shortest haircut should be with maybe a #2 guard on the clippers, though a #3 guard should hide the scar without any issue. If you shave your head, you will see a linear scar. This type of procedure can be done without any hair cut or shaved in the donor area, so that when you leave the office you will not be able to see any evidence of surgery, as your hair will immediately cover the incision.

You will, however, have redness in the area where the grafts were transplanted. The severity of the redness depends on your body and where the grafts are transplanted to (if it was to a completely bald area, it will be evident — if it was to an area that had some hair, you might be able to cover it with styling).

A Specialist Recommended Scalp Reduction Surgery For My Small Bald Spot – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Hello,

After having a bald spot on the left side of my head for 28 years, I’d like to do something about it. The bald spot is circular in shape and 2cm in diameter, about 7cm directly above my left ear. The hair fell out when I was 2 and the bald spot has remained the same size for as long as I can remember. I am able to cover it with hair surrounding it, but it does take an emotional toll on me as I see it every day and I have to be very careful every month when having my haircut. I saw a dermatologist about a year ago who told me it’s triangular alopecia. He was not able to locate any hair follicles under the skin, and told me the chance of regrowth is slim to none, especially as there has been no hair there for 28 years. He suggested we first try cortisone injections which did not work, and then referred me to a specialist. I went to see a specialist and he recommended scalp reduction surgery given the small area and lack of hair follicles.

I’ve done some reading on scalp reduction surgery, on your blog and others. The risks seem to be significant (stretchback, slot scaring, hair angled incorrectly, etc.) and it’s clear you’re not a proponent. I’ve also been unable to find any success stories/testimonials online. I’m going to ask the specialist to share more information (# of surgeries he’s done, before/after photos, # of surgeries I’ll need, risks, type of incision, etc.), but before doing so I’m hoping to get your advice.

Given the small area (2cm in diameter) and being able to cover with existing hair, do you think this is a case for a successful scalp reduction surgery? If not, are there any alternatives you’d suggest (e.g., Rogaine, hair transplant)? Both my dad and grandpa have full heads of hair, so I’m not really worry about the hair on the left side of my head receding back to the site of the bald spot.

Thanks for your help!

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You are correct in that I am not a proponent of scalp reduction surgery. This is because over the years I have never seen it work well. I’ve written about this type of procedure before here.

A scalp reduction could be very tempting to the surgeon and the patient, because it makes logical sense — just take out the bald spot — but the best you would get is maybe 50% improvement. Or you might get considerable scarring from this, depending on the location.

There are other options, such as a hair transplant using the follicular unit extraction (FUE) technique into the small area you described. This is a more predictable result, particularly for the small area.

What is Confusing About The Dr Gho Patient Diary on Hair Regeneration? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dear Dr. Rassman,

you stated in a previous post that the pictures of the Dr. Gho patient is “confusing”. Could you be more elaborate on this topic? Why do you say so? In your previous post concerning Dr. Gho you stated that a follow up video would be nice. Aren’t these photographs followup documentation. It clearly shows regrowth. I used photoshop to lay the before and after images over each other. It is definately the same hair region displaying how the follicles are regrowing from the extraction sites. Why do you still consider this deceptive?

Regards

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For those that missed it, the original post is here.

Has anyone ever stopped and considered that maybe the regeneration you are seeing is just regular hairs (missed FUEs) growing back? I mean, what about the photos of the recipient site? Did anyone count the number or percentage of transplanted hairs that actually GREW?

If 1000 hairs were harvested, 700 of the transplanted hairs grew in the new location and 300 hairs regrew in the harvested donor area, would you consider this regrowth or hair multiplication or hair stem cell transplantation? Of course not! But you can take pictures of the donor area and show regrowth, and take pictures of the transplanted area and also show growth. The observer could think, “Wow! This is regeneration!” — but the observer would be mistaken. To show regeneration, duplication, cloning, stem cell transplant regeneration, or an outcome that showed splitting of the hairs, you must account for ALL the hairs that were taken out and ALL the hairs that grew back (not just a sample section). Otherwise, it is just hairs that grew back after being plucked.

Basic high school science teaches us about conservation of energy or mass in the universe. Many have tried to invent the perpetual engine or create gold from lead with no success. If Dr. Gho really figured out a way to clone hair, then he will be famous. If you would like to believe in it, that is your prerogative… but simply looking at someone’s diary or posts on the Internet is not a way to validate or document science.

The method and presentation of Dr. Gho’s study has serious issues and it does and (will) confuse many readers. A credible review by a third party should be something that Dr. Gho should want to do, if he is legitimate.

P.S. I understand that you’re very excited for my answer to your question, but sending a dozen emails and blog comments demanding that I answer right away is unnecessary.

Hair Loss InformationWhat Size FUE Punch Was Used? – Hair Loss Information – Balding Blog

Dr Rassman.

I was just browsing through your SMP site. Great work!

This particular client caught my eye: ScalpMicropigment.com

What sized mm punch was used to extract his grafts? He wasn’t an NHI client, correct? Thanks for your time!

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Actually, he wasn’t our surgical patient. I believe 1mm to 1.5mm punch was used, though I would guess more on the 1mm side.

I should point out that even while he wasn’t our FUE patient, he could have had the same punch scars produced if we did the surgery. What I mean is, FUE is NOT a scar-less surgery that many clinics claim it to be. Even 1mm punch will leave a scar. Even 0.8mm punch will leave a scar. Not everyone will develop scars to this degree, but as you can see in the photo, it’s a possibility.