Just a Question About Inheriting Balding

So, let’s say my maternal grandfather never went bald (His hair is white and thinning at age 75+, but had good hair most of his adulthood), but my maternal uncle is bald at 40+. My dad’s side all have decent hair. His hair is a little thin now as he is just as old as my maternal grandfather, but still enough that he still needs to get a haircut sometimes. What are my chances of going bald if my maternal uncle is balding but not my maternal grandfather? I have inherited my dad’s hairy body, but I’m not sure about testosterone sensitivity on the scalp.

There is no way to determine your risks of inheriting the balding genes.


2019-07-29 11:29:55Just a Question About Inheriting Balding

Accutane for Acne, Propecia for Hair Loss

Hi Im 22 years old and my hair has been thinning really really bad for like the last year or so.

I just started on my second month of propecia and I know its too early to see any changes, but my problem is that I also have an acne problem and my dermatologist is going to put me on Accutane. I know accutane contributes to hair loss also so i just wanted to know if I could be taking both at the same time? or just any advice you can give me.

I doubt that Propecia (finasteride) will protect against possible hair loss from Accutane (isotretinoin). There aren’t known interactions between the two medications, but this subject needs to be discussed with the treating doctor, not with us over the web.


2010-07-30 08:47:29Accutane for Acne, Propecia for Hair Loss

Juvenile vs Mature Hairline — Am I Going Bald? (Photos)

Many of my younger readers of this blog are seeing changes in their hairlines and are worrying about becoming bald. The problem is made worse when there is balding in their family line. I have placed three diagrams taken from the Norwood Classification for hair loss. By conventional wisdom, the Class 1 pattern is proposed not to be balding, the Class 2 pattern suggests that this is the beginning of the balding pattern (it may actually be the beginning of the mature hairline, just not named as such), and the Class 3 pattern is thought of as early balding, possibly worthy of transplants in some men. The line between the Class 2 and 3 patterns are fuzzy, at best. The reality, however, is not quite as simple as I believe that Dr. O’Tar Norwood had documented. In most men (more so in Caucasians), the hairline of youth rises to a hairline of maturity. The mature hairline is about 1/2 to 3/4th inch higher in the middle than where the youthful hairline is and as one moves away from the midline to the corners of the hairline, the gap between the mature hairline location and the youthful hairline location is slightly over 1 inch, changing the overall shape of the hairline to its characteristic ‘V’ shape.

 

Norwood 1 Norwood 2 Norwood 3

 

You can tell where your youthful hairline is/was by lifting your eyebrows up so that you can see your forehead wrinkle. I call this the furrowed brow, and the wrinkles you see reflect a muscle below the skin (the frontalis muscle which is present in everyone). The youthful (juvenile) hairline touches the top of the highest wrinkle of the furrowed brow and has a concave frontal shape to it. This often persist until the early teens, possibly longer. In the mature hairline (with its almost convex frontal shape (V-Shape) that extends from the temple prominences), shows a gap where there are no wrinkles and no hair present. None of what I just wrote is male pattern balding, yet many of our young readers panic when they see the rise in this hairline and they look to the Norwood Chart to identify where they are in the progression of their hair loss. It is particularly bothersome to the young men when the change occurs slowly and asymmetrically. Asymmetrical hair loss is common It’s even worse when the change produces a ‘chewed’ look. This maturing process occurs between 17 and 29 years of age and it is not uncommon to find one side go up faster than the other side. Not all men get a mature hairline (for example, former US President Bill Clinton retained his juvenile hairline — see his photo below) and retention of the juvenile hairline is more common in non-Caucasians as seen in many people from Asia and the middle eastern region.

They say a picture is worth 1000 words, so look at the pictures and labels below for clarity of this. Women almost always retain their juvenile hairline through their entire lives, while 95% of Caucasian men develop a mature hairline.

Set 1 (below): Photo on the left is of a patient shown with the “mature” hairline drawn in. The photo in the middle on the right is of that same patient with the “juvenile” hairline drawn in (the lowest line paralleling the highest crease of the furrowed brow). Note the gap between the highest wrinkle and the proposed mature hairline. That ‘gap’ should not be transplanted. The photo on the below is of my hairline — a classic mature hairline. Click photos to enlarge.

 

Set 2 (below): Photos on the left (Korean) and on the right (Hispanic) non-transplanted hairline. The photo below this is of an adult female (Cambodian) hairline (non-transplanted). Mr. Clinton’s hairline (above) takes on the shape of the female hairline shown here. Female Hairline = Juvenile Male Hairline. Click photos to enlarge.

If the surgeon follows the rules set forth in this post, then the hairlines will be placed in a position exactly like it would have been had they never lost hair as shown in these two patient examples below. The man on the right saw his hairline go up from its normal mature position and the line drawn shows his normal mature position where the transplanted hairs were placed in a single session with these results. With the lower photo, this man had a Class 6 pattern of balding and this change in his look occurred in a single surgery. If the hairline was not placed in the correct mature position, he would not have looked normal. I call these hairlines “no hairline hairlines”.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Weekend homework assignment: Check out the hairlines of your sibling, parents, spouse, neighbor, and meter maid. It’s worth looking at a variety of hairlines so that you can see what I’ve discussed above and determine the difference between a juvenile hairline and a mature hairline.

Actual limited frontal hair transplant post-op of 600 grafts at 4 days (photo)

The important take-away here is that within 4 days, with proper washing techniques, there is no scabbing present and nothing detectable short of a little tinge of pinkish color if you look close. All patients having a hair transplant should look like this within 4 days of the transplant. Some of the hairs that were placed already have shed so you can see why it is impossible to count the grafts after a few days.

How Do You Know What You Are Going to Look like When You Get a Hair Transplant? (From Reddit)

After a hair transplant, the grafts (hairs) go into a sleep phase which can last 1-4 months. Then, the new hairs sprout and start coming in waves and grow at a rate of 1/2 inch per month. The fullness you see by the 8th month reflects the density that the grafts (hairs) were put in by the surgeon. The greater the area of balding, the more grafts are needed. To help people like you judge what you will get, we hold Monthly Open House Events where prospective patients can meet many real patients who have had the procedure(s). They can look closely at the real patients’ results and speak with these former patients who often answer questions as you asked. I tell every prospective patient to demand to meet prior patients so they know what they are getting into. We want all of our patients to be educated and to develop realistic expectations.

A quick hair transplant question… from tressless


2019-02-14 11:49:57How Do You Know What You Are Going to Look like When You Get a Hair Transplant? (From Reddit)

Laser Clinic Claims a 95% Success Rate?

Hello,

I am 23 years old and already begin to thin around the crown of my head. Starting to notice hair on my pillow and when I shower. Thinning spot has been getting progressively more noticeable over the last 6 months. I have been using Rogaine for the last couple months without very much success. I am quite certain that stress and genetics are both major contributors to the early hairloss I am experiencing.

I have now begin to look at alternative treatment options and came across a laser therapy center claiming they have had 95% success rate over the last couple years. Laser therapy for a year was quoted just over $4000. That includes 15 mins under a laser helmet once a week for 12 months, a laser comb and topical solution for the 12 month timeframe. I have been advised that after the 12 months I would have to purchase topical solution for the rest of my life to avoid build up of DHT again which will progressively begin hair loss again. ($150/bottle every 7 months). According to the clinic they guarantee success or your money back (not something I would trust unless I see it in writing)

I would like to gain some insight into this type of treatment and see if anyone has had similar treatment with success. I am more than willing to spend the cash as my hair is an important part of my image and I have no desire to be bald by the time I am 30. Just want to make sure that the money is being well invested and that this is not a Scam.

Could you please provide me with some information on this type of hair loss therapy? Results? Studies? Success Stories? or anything else that can help in my decision. Thanks

I have written extensively about the use of lasers as a hair loss treatment — and simply stated, they do not work as claimed. To tell a client they have a 95% success rate — well, it depends on how they define “success”. If only 5% of their customers ask for a full refund, perhaps their judgment of success was that they were 95% successful in retaining your money. If they advertised a 95% success rate in regrowing hair, they’d probably be in violation of consumer fraud or advertising laws.

There was a recent case of a laser clinic in Chicago that was sued for refusing to honor their money-back guarantee when the laser treatment was found to be worthless, so just be sure to look out for these types of practices.

Here are some laser links worth reading:

  1. What Percentage of a Chance Do You Give Laser Treatment of Working?
  2. Reader Adds to the LaserComb / FDA Debate
  3. Reader Checks in with His Thoughts on the Latest LaserComb Study

After 3 Months of Propecia Use, I Can’t See My Scalp Under Harsh Lights Anymore!

Earlier this year I noticed my hair seemed thinner and a miniaturization exam revealed diffuse loss on the top of the scalp but not the sides or back. It was modest loss, only visible under harsh lights, but my hair definitely felt less dense.

Nearly three months later after consistent Propecia use, I could swear my hair feels thicker and I can’t see as much scalp in the mirror under harsh lights. Could this be a real effect or is it probably in my head? (No pun intended!)

This type of result seems like it might be too quick after just taking Propecia for 3 months, but I suppose it’s possible that you had a really great response, which we have seen in some men from time to time. It usually takes a few more months for most men to notice that much positive change, though. I’d keep taking the medication and keeping track of the gains.

Congratulations on the good fortune and better hair!

Left and Right handedness relates to finasteride side effects (article)

Apparently left handed dominant people have improved sexual function on fin rather than decreased sexual sides. I’ve been on fin for a short period of time now with the only side effect being a slight ball ache. I know this is a pretty tiny study but interesting to me nonetheless. What do you guys think? Article: https://bjui-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2012.11580.x#ss7-title

This is a new one for me. I read the article and although the studies were relatively small, it is suggestive of the handedness issue. Thanks for the information


2020-04-19 08:55:38Left and Right handedness relates to finasteride side effects (article)

After taking finsteride and minoxidil

This man started a heavy shed after starting to take minoxidil and finasteride. This is not uncommon; however, is a dramatic change. I expect the hair he lost before the shed will return over the next few months. He has to stick to the program.