Settling In to a Hair Loss Pattern?

Hi, Dr. Rassman. Thanks for answering all of our questions.

My question is, How likely is it for someone to “settle in” to a level of hair loss (Norwood 3A, for example) and not see any more rapid loss for a period of time (years, for example)? Do some people get to a certain level of hair loss beyond a mature hairline and stay that way without medication? Or is your fate essentially sealed after you reach a certain level?

Let me clarify what I see as your misunderstanding. The Norwood chart is not to be seen as a progression of hair loss chart, but rather the final patterns seen in a large male population.

Some people do seem to go from a Norwood class 3 to a 4 and then to a 5 pattern, but you may just “settle in” to your Norwood 3A state, as an example. There is really no 100% certainty, but a good doctor with a good miniaturization study and examination can give you a better assessment of what hair may go with time. Here’s the Norwood chart so we’re all on the same page:

Norwood

Your “fate” was sealed in your genetic code when you were conceived many, many years ago. Very few patients become a Norwood class 7 pattern, and even the balding patients who start as a class 5 may not go much further, even at the age of 100 or so. So for example, there’s no “point of no return” that says if you reach class 4 by this certain age, you’re guaranteed to be a class 7 later in life.

Exclamation Point Hair — Isn’t That Miniaturization?

I have a question concerning today’s blog post. you mentioned that “exclamation point” hair is a sign of a disease but isn’t that what happens when miniaturization occurs in general? doesn’t the shaft get smaller, generally at the root first? that’s what’s happened to me. does this mean i have a disease? i doubt it. i got my thyroid checked when i first noticed hair loss and everything seems fine. i guess what i’m asking is, what’s the difference? thank you!

The term “exclamation point hair” is a term of medical art (see more info and a diagram at American Academy of Family Physicians). You are correct that as the miniaturization progresses (it would have to be rapid progression) one could theoretically see the reduction of shaft size, which is normally a very, very gradual process. It rarely can be picked up visually as you report.

Sexual Side Effects from Topical Finasteride (from Reddit)

With regard to sexual side effects, we have been led to think that topical Finasteride is safer than systemic Finasteride (the pill). However, from this post, that is clearly not the case. Stopping the medication should solve the problem. From what I gather reading your post, you are still using topical Finasteride. I would call your doctors and ask them about it.

How to and how long to recover from fin sides. from tressless


2018-07-19 05:48:45Sexual Side Effects from Topical Finasteride (from Reddit)

Eyebrow Transplant of 189 Grafts (with Photos)

Hi doctors,
Are eyebrow transplants something that men have done? My eyebrows are not that thin but I am very particular about them, border line obsessive. Can I have maybe a couple hundred grafts done just to fill them in around the edges? Is this something that looks good when all is said and done?

Yes, we’ve transplanted the eyebrows of many men. I have a patient that sounds like what you’re describing, with great looking results that strengthened the overall brow by filling in the edges (and thankfully he’s given me permission to share his photos below).

This man had a eyebrow transplant procedure of 189 grafts about two years ago.

Before (with lines drawn in):

 

After (189 grafts in 1 procedure):

 

Shock loss from complications of FUT (photo)

These scars may occur as a complication of an FUT strip surgery. Sometimes they just happen and sometimes it occurs when the wound is closed under tension. Wait a period of six months and then, if it does not go away, you might have to consider doing something about it like Scalp MicroPigmentation which works very well for scars in the donor area provided that it is not too large. There is a good chance it will grow hair within six months.


2017-09-15 12:08:41Shock loss from complications of FUT (photo)

FDA Approval Costs Too Much for the Poor Snake Oil Salesmen

Hi Dr,
first of all thank you for doing this blog. I just wanted to ask a couple of questions and would really appreciate any answers. Firstly I know that you usually recommend FDA approved products in your blogs i.e. propecia and minoxidil and dont recommend any product that is not backed by the FDA. I actually emailed 2 companies (procerin and revivogen) who both make hair loss products and claim that they are really effective in treating hair loss and asked them that if their product is so effective why hasn’t it been approved by the FDA like propecia and minoxidil. They both gave me similar answers which consisted of 2 reasons:

a) getting FDA approval costs millions of dollars i.e. it is very expensive and that is something we dont have, and
b) our products are natural i.e they are not medicines and therefore they cannot be approved like propecia and minoxidil.

Can you please tell me if these answers make any sense?

Secondly I was looking at the revivogen scalp solution as a possible treatment to my hair loss (i’ve tried minoxidil and am allergic to it and am abit worried about the side effects of propecia) and came across a video (on YouTube) which contains an interview of the Dr that developed it, he gives a scientifc explanation of how the product combats the effects of DHT and allows the hair to grow.

I would really really appreciate it if you can watch this video or atleast a part of it and give us your opinion on this Dr’s scientific theory regarding revivogen. Many Thanks

You said it all in the first paragraph above — the makers of those products “both make hair loss products and claim that they are really effective in treating hair loss“. To be sure that this is the case, it MUST be scientifically studied with a good peer reviewed (that means unbiased) process. I agree that there are a number of ways to get there and these are all not necessarily FDA routes, but some analysis must be in hand to really substantiate the claims. If I told you that I have a pill that will make you live to at least 100 years old, would you believe me without proof? Of course when you are 100 years old, I could say “I told you so” — and if 1000 people took that pill, possibly one man will be around to make that claim at 100.

It does bother me that we have such proof with the drug Propecia (finasteride 1mg) and we know the possible side effects (which if they occur you can stop the medication and make the side effect go away) and yet people still seek out the unproven products with slick marketing. We really do not know the side effects of these other products, because it is not in the interest of the various companies to promote side effects, and as there is no FDA involvement they have no legal reason to list all possible side effects. If you are a man with male pattern baldness (MPB) and don’t take Propecia (finasteride 1mg), what you lose while you fool around with these other products is your valuable hair, which will be lost forever.

Should a Norwood Class 3 Person Consider Himself Lucky?

You may have touched upon this question before but I was looking for clarification. In an early post (I’m talking a few months ago) you mentioned how a norwood class 3 would rarely, if ever, progress to a norwood 6/7. By this, can a norwood 3 consider himself quite lucky in the sense that he’s probably not going to experience crown loss? What exactly did you mean by this?

Norwood 3Everybody is different. If you have stabilized your hair loss pattern at a Norwood class 3, then you will probably not progress to further balding.

You are born with certain traits ranging from eye color, skin color, dimples, to hair loss patterns. I would not say having one trait is better or luckier than the other. I believe about 8% of men are born with a Norwood 6/7 trait. Does that mean those men are unlucky? For example, Michael Jordan is likely a Norwood 6. Would you consider him unlucky?

Female Genetic Hair Loss

Hello,

I am a 25 year old woman and I have been losing my hair since the age of 12. All of the women in my family have been affected, but I am the first to lose it as such a young age and actually have it the worst. I am generally bald in the front and have thin hair everywhere else, but it’s not bald. I currently am using a weave, but I’ve noticed that is has actually become worse and I’d really like to lose the weave and have a natural hair line. Is New Hair catered for men only, and if not, can I be helped?

Desperate in Brooklyn

First of all, you should see a good doctor who knows about hair loss in women. Since you are in New York, I would recommend you set up an appointment with Dr. Robert Bernstein at (201) 585-1115. He has offices in Manhattan and New Jersey and can address your unique problem. It sounds like you do have genetic female hair loss, but first let’s get an expert to determine it. You must have a full check-up to determine if you have any metabolic diseases as well. For more questions and answers about female hair loss, please click here for previous blog entries.