How Fast Do Transplanted Hairs Shed?

I am 2.5 weeks post-op, and already seem to be shedding transplanted hairs in the recipient area. This seems quick to me. Are transplanted hairs shed quicker if there is no or minimal crusting post-op ?

Transplanted hairs shed in 19 out of 20 patients and they usually start shedding at 10 days or so, unless the crusts remain (which will hold onto the hair inside the crusting). I prefer having no crusts, as these grafts are more secure in their recipient sites.

One patient out of 20 will grow out their hair without shedding the transplant hair (no dormant phase), and these remarkable patients have 2 inch long hairs at 4 months post-procedure… and great joy from beating the odds


2012-11-27 07:44:39How Fast Do Transplanted Hairs Shed?

How Fast Can DUPA Take Effect?

I have a question about this condition which you call DUPA. Is its onset so sudden that you could go from having an overly thick head of hair to diffuse thinning including the sides and back in only 1 month. Also can chemical overprocessing make some of the individual hair strands thinner, because if so than I experienced it. I am torn between whether this is a chemical issue or I am suffering from sudden DUPA.

DUPA (diffuse unpatterned alopecia) will not appear in a month. If and when it hits, I suspect that it will develop over a long period of time (months to years). Chemical damage, on the other hand, will have a short cycle.

We do not understand a great deal about DUPA, but we are aware that the zone of hair around the sides and back of the head may not be permanent in everyone throughout their lifetime. If you go to an old age home and look at many of the men there, about 1/3rd to a half of the men over 80 have a see-through look on the sides and back of the head. When this is evaluated by mapping out the scalp for miniaturization, one sees many thin hairs in this ‘donor rim’ that should not be there. This diffuse alopecia may extend throughout the head, even in men who have no balding. I would venture to make the diagnosis of DUPA in these men. I believe that this condition, which the dermatologists have labeled ‘senile alopecia’, is something that hits men in all decades of life and a few men develop this condition when they are in their 20s or 30s. The use of Propecia has benefits to about half of these men, so I generally put people on Propecia who show signs of DUPA. Many of the poor transplant results that are seen occurs when the patient has DUPA and the surgeon does not check for it. The transplants become thin and the donor area, which was see through prior to the procedure, gets more see through after. I strongly warn every one of those patients I see with DUPA against having hair transplants and consider this condition a contra-indication for hair transplant surgery.

This is what we wrote about the various diffuse alopecias in a medical journal: “In addition to the regular Norwood Classes (I to VII) and the Norwood Class A’s (Ia to Va), there are two other types of male baldness that O’tar Norwood has termed “Diffuse Patterned Alopecia” and “Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia.” 2 Although these patterns receive little attention, they appear to be quite common and present special problems for the transplant surgeon. We have attempted to further define and stage these two types of balding in order to gain insight into their appropriate management.

Diffuse Patterned Alopecia (DPA) is an androgenetic alopecia characterized by diffuse thinning in the front, top, and vertex of the scalp in conjunction with a stable permanent zone. Diffuse Patterned Alopecia is usually associated with the persistence of the frontal hairline represented by the hairline position of the Norwood Class II or Class III patient. Especially in the earlier stages, the thinning generally extends to the vertex without significant hair loss in the crown. It differs from the regular Norwood classification in that, when the hair loss is first noted, it is already in a stage resembling a thinning Norwood Class VI, rather than having progressed through the Norwood stages III, III Vertex, IV, and V, which are characterized by continued recession at the temples, an expanding vertex/crown, and the presence of a defined bridge separating the anterior and posterior portions of the scalp. In addition, there is an absence of the residual triangular elevation in the parietal region that helps to define the typical Norwood Class VI patient.

Diffuse Patterned Alopecia differs from the less common Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia (DUPA) which is also androgenetic, but lacks a stable permanent zone. Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia patients have a similar progression of balding as the DPA patient except that the progression is often more rapid and will more likely eventuate in a “horseshoe pattern” resembling the Norwood class VII, except that in contrast to the Norwood VII, the DUPA “horseshoe” can look almost “transparent” due to the low density. The differentiation between DPA and DUPA is critically important because DPA patients are often good candidates for an appropriately timed transplant, whereas DUPA patients should almost never be transplanted because they will inevitably have extensive hair loss without a stable zone in which to harvest the hair.

Both Diffuse Patterned and Unpatterned alopecia also occur in women. However, in contrast to men, the DUPA in women is much more common, probably occurring 10 times as frequently as DPA. As in men, the female DUPA patients are not good candidates for a transplant (except in the instance where the donor hair is used solely to soften the frontal edge of a wig). The high incidence of Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia in women partly explains why so few women have their hair transplanted. It is also important to emphasize that a non-androgenetic differential must be considered in all unpatterned alopecias. This is especially true in women, where a host of medical conditions can produce diffuse unpatterned hair loss including anemia, thyroid disease, connective tissue disease, gynecological conditions, and severe emotional problems.

We find densitometry to be helpful in distinguishing Diffuse Patterned Alopecia from Diffuse Unpatterned Alopecia. A donor density in the range of 1.0 to 1.5 hairs/mm 2 with donor miniaturization in excess of 35% indicates an unstable permanent zone and precludes a diagnosis of DPA. As discussed in the section “Predicting Short- and Long-Term Hair-Loss,” these densitometry readings in a younger patient, even with little clinically apparent hair loss, point toward a high risk of extensive balding. The importance of densitometry is that not only will it help to distinguish between DPA and DUPA, but it can help to predict which patient will not be a good candidate for a transplant even before visible balding has begun. “


2007-07-11 14:45:17How Fast Can DUPA Take Effect?

How Far Back In My Family Tree Should I Look for Balding?

You’ve said before that balding comes from both sides with a tiny bit more weight on your mother’s side. When looking through a family tree for traits and patterns of hair loss (which I’m sure every visitor to this site has done over and over), how far back or in to your extended family should you look (cousins, uncles, great uncles, etc.), or can it spring up out of anywhere? I understand there are many environmental factors as well, but I ask because I have some unique traits I can’t attribute to anyone I have photos of in the past two generations or my second cousins even.

Genetic hair loss will likely be visible somewhere in your family tree, but I really cannot give you a definitive way to predict if you have the hair loss gene just by looking at your family members. The best way to know is look in the mirror… or see a doctor for a miniaturization study and/or hair bulk analysis.

The genes can be determined by genetic testing to 70% accuracy (see HairDX), but the test doesn’t tell you at what point the genes will be expressed, if at all.


2011-02-01 13:07:46How Far Back In My Family Tree Should I Look for Balding?

How Effective is Rogaine Foam?

Hey doc, been using Propecia for 2 1/2 years its slowed things down a lot, just added Rogaine Foam last week. Just wondering if I can get a straight answer on the effectiveness of Rogaine Foam. The commercial says 85% of men see regrowth, ive heard other people say it only works for 50% of men and then I saw a post from you in your archive where you say it only works well for 15% of men. Well which one is it?

Rogaine FoamWe are prisoners of our words, so I will stick to what I said.

If you are in the 15% of good responders, then it moves you into the 100% category (playing with numbers, or course). Some people feel that the Rogaine Foam works better than standard liquid Rogaine drops, because it is easier to use and thus better for those who find the drops difficult to titrate. If there are 85% of men that see some growth, I’d estimate that maybe 15% of men see it work very well.


2011-07-15 06:27:42How Effective is Rogaine Foam?

How effective is oral minoxidil?

I’m 21 and I’ve used minoxidil in the past (foam and liquid), but it was just too much of a hassle to apply consistently so I never saw any gains. Has anyone here used oral minoxidil with good results?

Oral minoxidil can be effective for male patterned hair loss. For many years, poorer countries have been using it successfully for male patterned hair loss before finasteride was released in their country. In India, for example, many people couldn’t afford Propecia and genetic finasteride wasn’t available so oral minoxidil was the only drug for hair loss.


2021-03-04 09:07:15How effective is oral minoxidil?

How Effective Is Minoxidil at Restoring Hairline Recession Caught Early?

I’m sitting at about a Norwood 1.25 or so right now, and was wondering if I could restore it to at least a 1 reliably with only min since I caught it early. I’m also horrified of the dreaded shed making it appear worse, will this be lessened since I caught it early?

The younger you are, the better the chance that finasteride might work on the hairline. This does not mean restoring the juvenile hairline and reversing the mature hairline, but I am referring to real hairline recession in men under 22 years old. Although, I have seen this happen in older men under 30 less frequently.


2020-06-04 18:34:57How Effective Is Minoxidil at Restoring Hairline Recession Caught Early?

How effective is finasteride for maintaining hair?

For the long term, finasteride has been very effective at holding back the balding or slowing it down. Some of my patients who were on it for more than 10 years, tried and stopped it and they all reported significant hair loss within 3 months of stopping the drug.


2020-04-19 09:01:53How effective is finasteride for maintaining hair?

How does your hair loss compare to others in your family?

I often tell my young male patients to see who in their family line (mothers fathers or fathers and uncles) and that might help them if they can identify their hair loss history with one of them (uncles, brothers, fathers, grandfathers, etc.. I will almost always do a HAIRCHECK (https://baldingblog.com/haircheck-test-how-it-is-done-video/) test as well to see if I can predict what is going to happen to the young male patient


2021-02-24 09:29:21How does your hair loss compare to others in your family?

How Does Seborrheic Dermatitis Not Cause Hair Loss?

How do they know that Sebhoraic Dermititus and Psoriosis do not cause hair loss? You wrote on your blog once that it can cause reversible hair loss indirectly by the inflammation accelerating telogen effluvium. Can the inflammation in someone that does not have telogen effluvium do this? Many (not all) of my outer brows fall out by just touching them gently. I have sebhoraic dermititus, is this accelerated a normal symptom of the condition or does this mean I also might have telogen effluvium?

  • Seborrheic dermatitis causes scaly, itchy, red skin and dandruff. It is a skin condition. It is not a hair condition.
  • Telogen effluvium is diffuse hair shedding which is triggered by some form of stress that makes the hair go into the shedding (telogen) cycle. Hairs usually grow back in 6 to 12 months.

I suppose any inflammation or trauma or stress can cause hair loss, but these types of hair loss are generally reversible and do not occur in everyone… just some susceptible people. I suppose extreme seborrheic dermatitis can trigger telogen effluvium, but it would be rare. It may cause some hair loss from scratching producing traction alopecia (not as drastic as telogen effluvium).