Morning Erection and Finasteride Doseage

Your website is a great and informative, objective source of information. Well done.

I’m 48 and been on fin for nearly 15 years under the care of a doctor. I started on 1 mg per day, but reduced to 0.25 mg per day mid last year in response to what I perceived as libido issues. These are now resolved.

I have also noticed a return of morning wood at the lower dose. My question is: do you know of any science to support a negative correlation between finasteride dosage and morning erections, and if so what is the mechanism?

Thank you for your efforts.

I am not aware of any studies and I would be guessing at the mechanism of how morning erections are correlated with finasteride dose. It could just be a perceived effect not related to the dose or it may be the dose change after all. It is not hard to imagine that less drug should cause less side effect. The other issue to consider is that would less drug produce less benefit for what the drug was treating. There is a delicate balance between these two statements.

The observation you pose is real (for yourself) but it is difficult to prove on an absolute basis unless you have hundreds (if not thousands) of patients who are willing to take the a pill that is randomized to different dose or just a placebo (“sugar pill”) and report their erection in the morning. Even the doctor overseeing the patient would not know if the pill was a placebo until the entire study was complete (double blind randomized control test).

My personal thought is that if you and your doctor are in agreement with what works for you, then so be it.

More Worries About Propecia — I Can’t Risk My Sex Life for Hair!

Hello,
i’ve recently had my second transplant and i’m almost 27, I had my first just before my 25th birthday. I have only had temporal recession mpb in the front, and I had figured that with such small areas to fill and such a good donor sample that I would be able to fill in the areas not fully but maybe 80% of the density it once was when hair existed there. I was semi happy with my first transplant yet wasn’t near the density I wanted maybe 20% with a random guess. I just had my second 4 months ago and from what I see hairs are growing in but it’s hard to tell at this point if it will get to the density where you won’t be able to see through my hair to my skin. I’m a bit skeptical. Also I am not positive but I think I have just a tad of shockloss, which I refused to take finasteride because of all these horror stories on the internet i’ve seen.

My question is where can I get the straight facts, not opinions but actual documented cases that the FDA uses in it’s analysis? I get conflicting opinions everywhere I go and it’s hard to decipher which is correct, based on fact, logical, and applicable to my situation. Now I’ve read posts on your shockloss and i’m a bit bummed I hadn’t atleast known that shockloss in men in their 20’s with an HT without using Finasteride is common. My Doctor said shockloss most of the time is temporary. Your posts say otherwise. Also I have seen posts on finasteride some saying side effects such as decreased libido or penis size is permanent, others say no. I can’t risk my sex life and would rather be bald then mess with it, but I do like having hair on my head as well. Which side do I take? It’s probably already too late to counter any of the hairloss 4 months after the surgery right? Sorry for the long question. Thanks.

I appreciate your situation, but your fear of Propecia (finasteride 1mg) makes no sense to me. If you took the medication and experienced a negative sexual side effect (1% of men), the drug will be out of your blood stream in 24-48 hours from the time you stop taking it. There is nothing permanent about it. Concerning your hair transplants, you need to have a Master Plan for what might happen to you. If you got 20% of what you expected, then do you have enough hair to follow your hair loss without Propecia as you lose it? Your doctor is just plain wrong when he tells you that hair loss from a transplant (shock loss) is temporary and I would challenge that comment if given the chance.

I agree that giving up sex is not an option, but where are you getting the idea that it is either sex without Propecia or no sex with Propecia? That is not what millions of men are experiencing today, including 99% of the men I treat with that drug.

More than one hair transplant?

In your experience do patients typically require more transplants down the line, if so how many typically? I can stay on fin to help with this, but I’d like to avoid having to do multiple down the line. Maybe one more in my 30s/40s to keep the hair looking natural if recession drastically continues, but I’m a little hesitant as I don’t want to get roped into having to do continuous surgeries every 5-10 years for the rest of my life.

I have had patients stop at one hair transplant, more common in the older male population when their Norwood Balding pattern is stable. In younger men who jump the gun, following the hair loss with additional hair transplants is not uncommon. That is why careful planning is critical in using up a limited donor supply. A good Personalized Master Plan for every man is needed.

More reviews of finasteride pills, dutasteride and topical finasteride

More details keep emerging that address the sexual side effects that have been well documented. Here is another review medical article for those of your who read this. The topical form of the drug finasteride seems to have fewer sexual side effects, but they are still present.

https://www.practiceupdate.com/journalscan/39062/2/3?elsca1=emc_enews_daily-digest&elsca2=email&elsca3=practiceupdate_uro&elsca4=urology&elsca5=newsletter&rid=NTYwMzM3MDM4NTkS1&lid=10332481


2020-09-15 09:10:34More reviews of finasteride pills, dutasteride and topical finasteride

More questions on ‘hair plugs’

When you say pencil size from the 1980w, you mean the shaft of a pencil? Presumably this little bit of tissue had several follicles? When I heard the term in the past I thought they were little wigs you wore in the receded area!

A hollow drill was used in the back of the head that cored out a pencil size plug of hair. These were placed in the front in rows. Only a quarter of an area was covered with each of four surgeries with the idea that when eventually filled in, the four quarter patterns would cover the balding areas. Unfortunately, the idea was flawed, because after the plug was put into the scalp, it would contract squeezing the plug to a very high hair density. The the central part, would die off so that the plug looked like donuts. With these high density plugs surrounding a hole in the center, the unfortunate victims has a pattern of hair plugs that anyone could see within 20 feet. I, personally, can’t believe that the public accepted this result, but they did, maybe because they felt that a dolls head of hair was better than a bald head of no hair.

 

More Opinions About Finasteride and Prostate Cancer Risk

This post is in reference to an increased prostate cancer risk from finasteride and dutasteride (see here).

E. Antonio Mangubat, MD wrote an interesting metaphor to help some of his patients and colleagues understand the many discussions on cancer risks in association with taking finasteride. He writes:

“It is sad that the number of lives saved [who have not developed prostate cancer] has been discounted because of the words used …. [in the opinions drawn].

In my opinion their conclusion [New England Journal of Medicine] is like saying seat belts should not be used because it increases the chances of dying if the car ignites on fire. While the caution is true, the conclusion ignores the lives saved if the car does not incinerate.”

We both agree that the conclusions in this NEJM article introduce a fear factor that people with hair loss will now have to consider cancer risks and even death from prostate cancer if they choose to take this drug. The study that is referenced was performed on 20,000+ men over 55 years old in a classic double blind methodology and it showed that the cancer risk was reduced by 25% for those men who took the drug when compared to the control group.

The fear was generated from the observations that there was a higher risk of high grade tumors in those men who took the drug, but there was no study of death rates on the men with higher grade tumors despite the high numbers of men studied. For those readers who are still confused, the pathologists who reviewed the ‘slides’ of the tumors felt that the tumors looked ‘meaner’ (my words), but if these meaner tumors did not kill the men who had that diagnosis made, then it seems almost meaningless, an exercise of intellectualization.

I am angry about these conclusions to two reasons: (1) I must notify patients of these recommendations since they come from the FDA and the NEJM journal, because this has now become the standard of care, and (2) patients who are balding and could be helped with a simple daily finasteride pill may be frightened into the hair transplant surgery route. Yes, I would make money from the transplant, but I prefer that patients simply take a pill rather than have surgery that could perhaps otherwise be avoided.

More on Rogaine Foam

In a previous post, I discussed Rogaine Foam when it just came to market. There appears to be good information now that the foam delivery system for Rogaine seems to increase the effectiveness of the medication by a factor greater than two. With greater effectiveness as measured by increasing blood levels, one could and should assume that the delivery into the skin is more effective than the traditional oil or alcohol base of the ‘old’ standard product. Greater skin delivery will almost certainly bring better benefits. Time, of course, will tell us what it all means, but for the moment, I would recommend using this product and sticking with it for a full 8 months before drawing conclusions one way or the other.


2006-10-23 09:10:54More on Rogaine Foam

More Olux Foam and Hair Loss

In response to your Jan. 15th post on Olux Foam, my dermatologist has also prescribed me the medication to treat seborrheic dermatitis. She has told me that I need to apply the foam once a day, at night, for an indefinite period of time to prevent the inflammation of my scalp. Do you think this will affect my hair loss in the long term? I have also been taking Propecia for the past 6 months to help treat hair loss in the same region on my scalp. Thank you for you advice and help.

In theory, topical steroids (the ones that are used for skin inflammation) do not cause hair loss. I don’t think topical steroids can contribute to a deterioration of your hair loss unless you absorb clinical amounts of steroids through the skin.


2007-01-17 11:04:48More Olux Foam and Hair Loss

More Nuts Improve Men’s Orgasmic Function, Sexual Desire

Adding nuts to a regular diet significantly improves orgasmic function and sexual desire in healthy young men, according to the FERTINUTS study. The randomized controlled trial, which was recently published in Nutrients, showed a significant increase in the orgasmic function (P = .037) and sexual desire (P = .040) of men of reproductive age who received the nut intervention in comparison with an age-matched control group. The researchers found no significant between-group differences in changes during the intervention in erectile function (P = .192), intercourse satisfaction (P= .473), and overall satisfaction (P = .333). In addition, there were no significant correlations between changes in erectile dysfunction parameters and in biochemical parameters during the intervention, write Albert Salas-Huetos, PhD, from University Rovira i Virgili, Reus, Spain, and colleagues.

“None of the possible mechanisms explored (nitric oxide and E-selectin, as surrogate markers of endothelial function) seem to explain the beneficial effects observed on orgasmic function and sexual desire,” they write. They add that the study “did not provide enough evidence to support the main mechanism for these improvements, however, an absence of evidence does not mean evidence of no effect.”

This was published in Medscape 8/12/19


2019-08-12 16:57:16More Nuts Improve Men’s Orgasmic Function, Sexual Desire